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TheBrettster
11/27/2007 5:58:37 AM
10k raptor isn't slow. Running raid0

Just need the process's
drperry
11/27/2007 6:31:45 AM
lol, running raptors in a raid setup? Man, I hope you've got some good cooling going on in there!
TheBrettster
11/27/2007 6:59:37 AM
11 fans to be exact.

Its the 8800 GTX that is my heat problem :P

My 6400 Black Edition runs at a nice 39C with stock cooling
drperry
11/27/2007 7:37:27 AM
LOL!

Reminds me, I should put my side panels back on...

I want a better cooling capable case... but I like my shiny blue chrome...


I had to "downgrade" my cooling... My Tornado's were a little too loud...

From about 8 feet away at full power, my computer was making like 75dB... According to the cheapo dB meter my brother bought from RadioShack, lol.
 
 
That 8800GTX is damned nice!
 
Too bad ATI has the edge up on non hardcore gaming video quality, or I'd have switch to NVIDA.... Also, when using the actual S-Video/RCA out... ATI has better TV quality, lol... Or used to...
WolfPack
11/27/2007 10:36:32 AM
Just to answer a few dangling questions up there, The slimline is a biatch to work on.  Gotta pull the power supply to get to the ram and gotta take out the cd drive to expose the whole mother board.  Also hp warranty has like a 2 week backlog on slimline parts. 

Annddd you can find vista pc's with 512mb ram, but theyre only running vista basic, and most of the ones we carry at circuit city are running with celeron m's...whenever customers ask me if the 512 machines are decent, i just kinda laugh
BLK85
11/27/2007 3:21:31 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: WolfPack
whenever customers ask me if the 512 machines are decent....

... lol yea for XP.  On my XP computer(soon to be ubunta) I have like 768mb.
drperry
11/27/2007 3:56:01 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: WolfPack

Annddd you can find vista pc's with 512mb ram, but theyre only running vista basic, and most of the ones we carry at circuit city are running with celeron m's...whenever customers ask me if the 512 machines are decent, i just kinda laugh


 
I pity da foo the be sellin' Vista 'puters with 512mb o' ram!
TheBrettster
11/27/2007 4:17:54 PM
Perry -

ATI's HD cards absolutly SUCK. My Brother has one and he is begging me for my 7900 GT.
drperry
11/27/2007 4:28:14 PM
lol, yep, I read up on them...
 
I'm keeping my X1650 Pro for now...
 
But mine still had better movie ability than my brothers new nVidia card ;)
WolfPack
11/27/2007 6:42:52 PM
the one problem with the 8800 gtx is the sheer size.  Takes two slots just to plug in, and I still had to buy a new case cause I couldnt make all my power cables fit around the card to the rest of the board 
otnietdehoooo
11/27/2007 7:02:59 PM
what about the 8600m GT? is that a decent card? thats whats in my laptop. the only other option was "intel media xcelerator"
 
 
TheBrettster
11/27/2007 9:13:26 PM
I have no problem with my GTX's fitting in. I never use pci slots anyways, no need. You dont want anything below the graphics card anyway cause it will cause cooling problems.

The 8600m is good for onboard graphics. 
WolfPack
11/27/2007 10:42:47 PM
that intel media accelerator is garbage.  good choice on the nvidia.  The only thing you coulda gotten better woulda been to get a custom made laptop with dedicated graphics memory instead of sharing the system memory
otnietdehoooo
11/27/2007 10:55:40 PM
i wasnt aware that it shared the system memory...     it said "256MB nVidia GeForce 8600M GT"    i figured that meant it had 256MB dedicated to the video card and then the 2GB ram was left alone...
 
 
 
im not a huge pc gamer though, i play mostly on xbox live
WolfPack
11/27/2007 11:18:29 PM
go to your system properties and see how much ram you are running with.  we only carry one laptop in-store at ccity that has dedicated video ram, and it's a 2500 toshiba gaming laptop with HDMI and everything sexy.  2gb is pretty substantial though, even if you are sharing 256mb for video

edit: Did some research, the 8600m GT actually can be quoted as 512mb card.  It's got 256 dedicated (on board) and if your system has 2gb or more it will share up to 255mb of system memory.  the amount of shared memory can be adjusted in the nvidia control center fyi
drperry
11/28/2007 1:24:28 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: TheBrettster

I have no problem with my GTX's fitting in. I never use pci slots anyways, no need. You dont want anything below the graphics card anyway cause it will cause cooling problems.

The 8600m is good for onboard graphics. 

 
 
Actually, they don't block PCI slots... They block PCI-E slots ;) lol.
Jbark2492
11/28/2007 1:36:48 AM
in my opinion acer is crap i just bought one on black friday and its a piece its sluggish and cannot fulfill my very basic needs i dont need it to do much internet microsoft word a powerpoint once in a while i use the computer for school mostly and the laptop i bought sucked it had 1gb ram and 100 gb hd space i messed up tho because none of the ads nore description showed its processor i was so excited by the price 300$ i missed tht bought it took it hom and i hate it and i shoul have put the 300$ into a new exhaust or sumthing lol i suggest for this computer u upgrade the ram to 2gb tht would be a wise decision if it is not ridiculously expensive over 100 is not worth it and if their is an option i might upgrade the processor but AMD is a great brand in my opinion but im sure others will call me an idiot and say to go intel or VIA or something else but last year i built a computer and i put an expensive AMD processor in it and i love it i ended gettin a AMD Athlon Xp Dual core and i think it has 3.7 ghz mayb a little less i put mine in a very small chassis and its very easy to manage when upgradeing i put it in a Shuttle chassis i forget which model its black and i was in California for vacation (live in Ohio) and i stopped into Silicon valley and picked up a 500 Gb 7200Rpm harddrive because it was on sale it might nmot spin the fastest but its alot of space and i also picked up 2gb of ram it wasnt really cheap tho i thin keach 1gb stick was 117 dollars or sumthing like tht but chevy owner to chevy owner id say this system will be sufficent for you unless you will be using it for like engineering which takes a big processor and ram because of the graphics requirements idk about playing games on it you would probably be ok doing tht  but dont do anything else while playin gor it will be extremely slow and with the 320 gb harddrive your probably safe downloading songs o and tht 16x burner is good to probably an extra 70-100 bucks separetly i bought a westing house i thing is the brand 19 inch lcd monitor on sale and like costco or sumthing idk my mom picked it up when she lived in arizona and sent it to me but she got it for under 150 and i love it it has a nice clear wide screen and this is not really significant but i like the way tht the screem tilts lol (its tht little things tht always sell me) Summary of long post GET THE RAM UPGRADE ITS WORTH IT
TheBrettster
11/28/2007 2:30:23 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: drperry

quote:

ORIGINAL: TheBrettster

I have no problem with my GTX's fitting in. I never use pci slots anyways, no need. You dont want anything below the graphics card anyway cause it will cause cooling problems.

The 8600m is good for onboard graphics. 



Actually, they don't block PCI slots... They block PCI-E slots ;) lol.


If you buy a rubbish motherboard, my abit fal1ty has a pci slot between :P.
drperry
11/28/2007 2:59:42 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: TheBrettster

quote:

ORIGINAL: drperry

quote:

ORIGINAL: TheBrettster

I have no problem with my GTX's fitting in. I never use pci slots anyways, no need. You dont want anything below the graphics card anyway cause it will cause cooling problems.

The 8600m is good for onboard graphics. 



Actually, they don't block PCI slots... They block PCI-E slots ;) lol.


If you buy a rubbish motherboard, my abit fal1ty has a pci slot between :P.


 
I'm much happier with with the PCI-E slots hidden... My soundcard AND my HDD controller card are both PCI
TheBrettster
11/28/2007 4:11:24 AM
I have my soundcard pop'd in the bottom slot to maximize heat mitigation. 
WolfPack
11/28/2007 4:27:14 AM
jbark acers are good computers, but you gotta remember every brand is gunna put out a budget/value pc.  you can find a cheaply priced computer, but its gunna suck the majority of the time, especially on black friday.  The computers youre buying at retail stores are already sold at a loss, so when a store can put it on that much of a discount, you know it wasnt selling anyway....

you wouldnt buy a hyundai and expect lexus preformance would you?
TheBrettster
11/28/2007 4:55:10 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: WolfPack

jbark acers are good computers, but you gotta remember every brand is gunna put out a budget/value pc.  you can find a cheaply priced computer, but its gunna suck the majority of the time, especially on black friday.  The computers youre buying at retail stores are already sold at a loss, so when a store can put it on that much of a discount, you know it wasnt selling anyway....

you wouldnt buy a hyundai and expect lexus preformance would you?



Amen, I think acer's are excellent budget computers. I myself have an acer laptop that I use for buisness and I have absolutly no problems with it becides having to flash the bios. You gotta remember that computer probably has so much loaded junk on it that is slowing your computer down. In order for them to sell computers so cheap is that they have to sell "advertisment" on the computers such as the free trials etc.. When i bought this laptop it was a dog but like any store bought laptop myself or my friends buy the first thing I do is reformat it and install fresh windows/linux on it.
drperry
11/28/2007 5:20:53 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: TheBrettster

I have my soundcard pop'd in the bottom slot to maximize heat mitigation. 

 
 
Actually, most times it's best to have the soundcard as far away from the video card as possible...
 
At least it runs better at any rate :p
 
Less random crashes in XP with my old setup... Then again, that was AGP...
 
Though, I haven't had any hardware crashes except for HD's dying since I switched to Vista, lol.
blazinloud
11/28/2007 9:49:42 AM
what would cause  a relatively new(custom built dual core)
computer to take nearly 30 seconds to load up the home page on the net.
 
bigger hdd in need, more ram? what part actually makes a computer fast on the net? DL songs etc. with a shaw high speed connection.
 
WolfPack
11/28/2007 10:46:53 AM
its probably a bunch of other programs you've got running in the background using up your bandwidth.  The system components only matter for opening your browser, after that, its your internet connection.

run a speed test (google speed test) and see what your download rate is.  if the number is pretty high, and youre going real slow, then you gotta eliminate some processes.  msconfig if you know what your doing, or get windows defender and use the software explorer.
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