Tranny swap?!

Hey blazin guys

I have a very difficult question for those of you that think they know everything or a lot about Chevy Blazers!

Can I do a auto to manual transmission swap? I know that there is 5-speed 2D blazers out there and I have the automatic 2D blazer, and I love my blazer...just the STUPID auto tranny is KILLING ME (it works fine I just hate auto)...if only I could have a 5-speed blazer

Any thoughts???


Oh, if anyone has a 5-speed blazer, could you please send me some pictures of it under the hood and under the dash so I could compare with mine and see if it is possible?

Thanks a lot in advance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nobody???

How about some pictures, can someone with a manual transmission upload some pics of the clutch pedal (where it goes under the hood from under the dashboard) and under the hood of the clutch cylinder? Please?

Thanks

I have both a couple of automatics and a stick with five speed. I do not NOW know what engine/trans you are dealing with. Is it an older 2.8, 2.2. 2.5, with auto or a 4.3? I do not have the 4.3 in stick, so how it sets up, I do not know. Will soon do a 4.3 with four speed though. Old, I believe, lots of welding of linkage and stuff???

I own an old s10 truck with 2.5 four and a 5 speed. The truck is an 89. Have no idea what year engine and tranny are. Yes truck was stick to begin with but the whole drivetrain has since been changed out, Engine, tranny, rear, all different.

Anyway, the stick on this one has clutch that is hydraulic. So the simplistic answer is that if you have the hydraulic parts to go with the stick, bellhousing, clutch, pressure plate and fork plus all misc other parts, then the pedal mounting isnt hard to deal with. Remove all this stuff from a donor car and install it.

I'll say this though. If you are willing to set this vehicle down and plan on not driving it fer a month or 6 weeks then you'll be fine. I just know that most can do this a whole lot faster, but when working on your own and not for bundles of money you will not be as fast. All you'll be doing is SPENDING and trying to figure out how to spend as little as possible without building something that will break down soon.

One warning, if you're looking at purchasing from e-bay or something. remember all the little parts that no-one will sell you cause its hard to unload this stuff. I see transmissions, without bell housings. Bell housings by themselves. Clutches and pressure plates by themselves. YOU need them all at once. Remeber that. Pay one price and get EVERYTHING. Otherwise you'll be nickled and dimed to .....

A good for-instance is that a new clutch and pressure plate OUGHT to be installed. I would install a heavy duty aftermarket one and pay close attention to good quality equipment right there. No-one wants to take this apart again once its adjusted and working correctly.

To be honest, uploading a picture of that cute little master cylinder for the hydraulic fluid is not a neccesity. It sit by the master brake cylinder. Its no more than 2 1/2 inches across and 3 1/2 tall and cylindrical with a rubber cap for filling with DOT3. Line runs from it just like the brakes. The rest is really not able to be photographed unless taken apart. At least not for me.

Thought I would add this. Look carefully at pedal arrangement on donor car. On older trucks I have had experience with, the brake pedal was different on some models as compared to automatics. The pedals for brake and cluctch were sorta in pairs but I have not done an s`10 model YET. Perhaps some other posters can help us both here.

I was thinking about do this swap also and I figure the best way would be to go to the junkyard and find a wrecked s-10 with the 4.3 5 speed set-up and rob it of it's pedal set-up, lines, hoses, tranny and crossmembers, shifters and other interor pieces.....thats for my 96 tho I don't know what year you have

To be honest, I am thinking seriously about starting a frame up build from an s10 frame for a rod body of some sort. What my tranny question is: How many 5 speed 4.3 cars/trucks, are actually available as donor cars. Or would it actually be easier to find 4 speed rigs left over from earlier models than the s10's.

For the 2.8 things are fairly easy. Many camaro parts, many 4 cylinder parts. Then comes the question; camaro 305 parts? AHA perhaps. I do know the 350 couldnt possibly have ever gotten a 5 speed or 6 speed. So the donor is what, a camaro v8?


How many s10 blazers with 4.3 and stick do you think may be in junk yards these days. Heck I have no idea how many sticks were built with a 4.3. Have never seen one.

It would have been seriously against Chevrolet policy to do anything like this only the camaro was considerrred sporty enough and you can bet there was NEVER a four wheel drive built with 5 speed and 4.3.

Tell me I am crazy cause I'd like to find one myself.

autotrader search results - any chevy blazer, 6cyl, 4wd, 5-speed

There are tons of S-10 pickups with 4.3 V6s and 5-speeds.

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ORIGINAL: blazingsadle

I have both a couple of automatics and a stick with five speed. I do not NOW know what engine/trans you are dealing with. Is it an older 2.8, 2.2. 2.5, with auto or a 4.3? I do not have the 4.3 in stick, so how it sets up, I do not know.

If you want decent info, you need to provide the basic information.

Hey; how about telling me where to find a stick, complete; for a 4.3 blazer. Or someone at least answer by some sort of method, approximarely how many of the blazers that are available for parts donor cars RIGHT now, would have stick shifts?

I am assuming there may well be a few model years. Was 89 the first 4.3? So from 89 to what? To 95 maybe?? 6 model years with 4.3's and how many were sticks? Anyone have some solid information or site for reference?

I will look a lot better if I get some solid info. But have not seen any within 50 miles of our home.

I am completely correct about donor camaros, only the 305 is a reasonable choise for 5 or 6 speeds. The 4th gen has a few 6 speeds that are good.

Had to add this. Yes I did go to that site. But I am looking for a DONOR car. One I could get near the same vintage as the one I am working on and for VERY LITTLE money. Know what I mean?

1995
Transmission
Chevy S Series Sonoma SSLS,4.3,5 Sp,RWD,Tilt,Floor 5C2578 $750 Waterford Truck Dismantling USA-CA(Waterford) E-mail 1-800-544-3488
1995
Transmission
Chevy S 10 5-95,LS,4.3,F-5SP,IN TRUCK BED NA0186 $750 Case Used Parts #1 USA-SC(Marion) E-mail 1-800-234-2928
1995
Transmission
Chevy S 10 11-94,4.3,SD,FLR JL0073 $750 Bass Used Parts USA-NC(Fairmont) E-mail 1-910-628-5888 / 1-866-917-5888
1995
Transmission
Chevy S 10 GUTS GOOD BAD CASE 010083 $650 R and D Auto Salvage USA-GA(Hazelhurst) E-mail 1-912-379-0388 / 1-888-257-2633
1995
Transmission
Chevy S 10 5-95,RWD,V6,MAN,FLR 106,000 A 060151 $650 Highway 10 Auto Parts, Inc. USA-NC(Conover) E-mail 1-800-222-8965
1995
Transmission
Chevy S 10 SR231 $650 Davis Auto, Inc. USA-MI(Merrill) E-mail 1-989-643-7015
1995
Transmission
Chevy S 10 06-94,RWD,4.3,F5,FLR ,LS,TESTED B2941 $625 Oil City Auto Salvage Inc USA-MI(Shepherd) E-mail 800-255-8727
1995
Transmission
Chevy S 10 155,000 A 027615 $600 John's Auto Parts USA-MN(Blaine) Request_Quote 1-800-862-4543 Request_Insurance_Quote
1995
Transmission
Chevy S 10 4.3,2WD,5 SPEED MT 5F0221 $600 Dorris Auto Wreckers, Inc. USA-CA(Hayward) E-mail 1-510-782-4393/1-510-782-4394
1995
Transmission
Chevy Blazer S10 M.T., 4X2--U 100,000 14F05 $600 McNeilus Auto & Truck Parts USA-MN(Dodge-Center) Request_Quote 1-800-722-9318 Request_Insurance_Quote
1995
Transmission
Chevy S 10/S15/Sonoma M.T., 4X2, 6-262 (4.3L)- 100,000 4701 $595 Kelly's Auto Parts - QRP USA-MN(Faribault) Request_Quote 1-877-349-4947 Request_Insurance_Quote
1995
Transmission
Chevy S 10 GREEN,4.3L,MT-5SPD 050478 $550 Carney Auto Parts USA-IA(Ames) E-mail 1-888-262-3808
1995
Transmission
Chevy S 10 RWD,4.3,5SP,FLR 510076 $550 Jonesboro Auto Salvage USA-GA(Jonesboro) E-mail 1-770-477-6663
1995
Transmission
Chevy S 10 5-95,4.3,5SPD,FLR 6654 $500 Crosstown Auto & Truck Parts USA-MI(Kalamazoo) E-mail 1-800-783-1980
1995
Transmission
Chevy S 10/S15/Sonoma PU,4X2,6-4.3L-5K 5,000 A G608 $495.4 Northwest Auto Parts USA-AK(Anchorage) E-mail 1-907-333-6531
1995
Transmission
Chevy S 10/S15/Sonoma M.T., 4X2, 6-262 (4.3L)- TESTED [+-/] KEN $475 Northside Salvage USA-NY(E.-Rochester) E-mail 1-585-381-9667
1995
Transmission
Chevy S 10/S15/Sonoma M.T., 4X2, 6-262 (4.3L)- 061173 $475 Everett's Auto Parts USA-MA(Brockton) Request_Quote 1-800-772-5200 Request_Insurance_Quote
1995
Transmission
Chevy Blazer S10/S15 4CY 5SP GOOD 001605016 $200 Payless Auto Salvage USA-AR(Rogers) E-mail 1-888-383-2002


thats from car-parts.com I'm not sure where you are located but there seams to be alot of them in the yards.......

It was not necessary to post ALL of those descriptions. A simple link to Car-Parts.com would have sufficed.

Only problem that I have with going to auto recyclers like what is listed on Car-Parts.com is that if they are too far away, you cannot return to the vehicle you are pulling parts off of to get other linkages etc. First thing I would do would be to start calling your local wrecking yards. Atleast this way, if you find what you need, you can zip in and pickup whatever you may have missed the first time. If working with a yard that is 1hr or more away, this becomes very time consuming... Or even worse, if the yard has to ship you the parts... Not fun.

Good Luck!

Checking locals is what I did. Already made my problem perfectly clear.

There seems to be a second problem and its showing itself in all the prices. A running blazer with a clean title and in the 92 and before range will often sell for a lot less than some of the trannies I see listed here. Yes a couple were reasonable.

Was it a certain selection that came up with all 1995 trucks? The price might be real cheap for an 89? Dont know.

I do know that If I punch in transmission I will get a price for a transmission. See my previous posts about attempting to get donor car. A complete system is needed. Jerking a tranny is not what this is about.

How many kinds of sticks were made and how well do they interchange with each other? Heck on my 2.5 I had two choices. Luckily all I lost was my speedo. And if I had paid attention, I could have converted that one over. From what I have read, there were at least two bolt patterns to the rear of the bell-housing alone. (not the front when discussing only one engine at a time) The bell housing and tranny have to bolt together. Even with the little ones I know of at least two different bolt patterns. Also at least two manufacturers for one of the bolt patterns. A complete system is needed. A complete car is needed.

Is the computer the same on a stick shift? I dont know yet? I do know a stick doesnt have lockup? I do know that if changing out an electronic version of an automatic, the stick doesnt use that trash. Bet a whole car might be real helpful?

I need to add that car parts . com is on my favorites list and I have used it. A good for instance is that an auto tranny will go complete for around 300 used. Thats in my neighborhood, using car parts . com The second very clear thing to remember is that you can also purchase a donor vehicle right out of some-ones yard for $100. For an automatic anyway.

The approach being used to find parts by simply going to a junk yard or e-bay is a great one for people willing to spend more than they need to. I see one more thing. Being that Blazers were under discussion; I saw a blazer or two on that list. One was even a four cylinder. My point is that the odds of actually finding a DONOR car/truck of the right variety, for a reasonable price, are very, very slim.

A person at home in his own shop needs to be able to stare and compare. If you happen to be a professional and can take all these parts and assemble them from pure memory, it might be better to order brand new parts or look for crash cars of the VERY LATEST variety. This is not the point of view I look from.

Thanks for your interest everyone!

I am sorry I didn't mention in my post: I have a 1997 Blazer LS 4x4 auto, it is a 4.3L V6. So they didn't come 5-speed and 4x4??? I thought ZR-2's did have 5-speed trannys and ZR-2's are all 4x4, right?

Thanks again

If your LS has the same AUTOTRACK option that was available for the ZR2 you cant use a stick. Yes plenty of later model blazers with sticks, but non went with autotrack. Yes if you DONT have autotrack you can change over. Be aware that with model changes the locations of minor parts, and even the tranny models might well be different.

The stick was listed as standard and dealership basic marketing was to NOT sell with anything but automatic and/or autotrack. The option was popular with the factory and dealers so they could eliminate the problems associated with folks driving stick shifts that didnt know how and would destroy their cars. The dealers thus sold as few as possible of those cars. That is what is meant by factory policy. The price went up accordingly, making GMAC even happier.

You will not be doing a simple tranny swap. Be sure to find ALL the parts for the change from one vehicle as close as possible to yours. Have you checked to make sure the front will be using the same part with a different transmission? (gearing and shaft) I dont know. I do know that if it were an older style truck that the gearing might be different, the driveshafts might be different, the mounting locations and all mounting parts be different and so on.