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Will my system be any louder if I get a more powerful sub? - 10/10/2007 1:04:18 PM

Canadian88

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Right now I have a 10" type S alpine sub powered by a 400W alpine mono amp. My question is will there be any difference if I were to get a 10" type R sub? The type R is more powerful but if the amp stays the same will there be any difference?

Thanks guys!

Type R

10" subwoofer with dual 2-ohm voice coils

Kevlar® reinforced pulp cone with Santoprene™ rubber surround

cast aluminum frame with perimeter venting

frequency response: 24-600 Hz

power handling: 200-500 watts RMS (250 watts per coil)

peak power: 1,500 watts

sensitivity: 83 dB

Type S

10" subwoofer with dual 2-ohm voice coils

pulp/glass fiber cone reinforced with Kevlar

Santoprene rubber surround

power range: 50-300 watts RMS (150 watts per voice coil)

peak power handling: 900 watts

frequency response: 30-700 Hz

sensitivity: 84 dB

< Message edited by Canadian88 -- 10/10/2007 1:12:47 PM >

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RE: Will my system be any louder if I get a more powerf... - 10/10/2007 4:09:50 PM

Blazin_Jason

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I would vote little to no difference.

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RE: Will my system be any louder if I get a more powerf... - 10/10/2007 4:49:47 PM

drperry

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There probably won't be a lot of volume difference... But there's probably going to be a little bit of sound quality difference...

Don't ask me which way, I've never heard a Type-R in person, lol, just my Type-S.

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RE: Will my system be any louder if I get a more powerf... - 10/10/2007 4:53:48 PM

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quaility will probably differ but dought the volume will unless you change the amp

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RE: Will my system be any louder if I get a more powerf... - 10/10/2007 5:34:20 PM

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also try upgrading your wiring first before you get a new sub, it can make a diff.

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RE: Will my system be any louder if I get a more powerf... - 10/10/2007 5:56:30 PM

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very little, but I bet the R would have a deeper sound is all.

your best bet would be a ported box

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RE: Will my system be any louder if I get a more powerf... - 10/10/2007 7:12:44 PM

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most likely wont notice any loudness difference if your keeping the same amp...actually you will probably be a little deeper in tone....do a ported box and upgrade the "Big 3"

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RE: Will my system be any louder if I get a more powerf... - 10/11/2007 9:13:08 AM

Canadian88

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quote:

ORIGINAL: coplinb

also try upgrading your wiring first before you get a new sub, it can make a diff.

The only wires I could upgrade are the big three. I spent about a hundred dollars on rockford fosgate wires. I am planning on doing the big three soon btw. Before it gets too cold.

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RE: Will my system be any louder if I get a more powerf... - 10/11/2007 2:28:49 PM

blazinloud

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wiring will not affect your sound, but it will allow it to run more efficiently.

less strain on your electrical........but your only running 400 watts. If its going to stay at that the big 3 will be a waste of money and effort.

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RE: Will my system be any louder if I get a more powerf... - 10/11/2007 2:53:38 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: blazinloud

wiring will not affect your sound, but it will allow it to run more efficiently.

less strain on your electrical........but your only running 400 watts. If its going to stay at that the big 3 will be a waste of money and effort.

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RE: Will my system be any louder if I get a more powerf... - 10/11/2007 4:46:00 PM

drperry

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Or get a battery that's got side posts and top posts (assuming they fit in the Blazer) and then you only need to worry about the ground wires, as you can just hook the stereo to the top post (that's the way I did it in my old Mazda, Lumina, and S10)

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RE: Will my system be any louder if I get a more powerf... - 10/11/2007 5:36:40 PM

hillbillyinOhio

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batts with side and top mounts will fit. that is what I always had. (kind of hard to fit 4 runs of 1/0 on a sidemount)!!

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RE: Will my system be any louder if I get a more powerf... - 10/11/2007 6:07:17 PM

drperry

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That is definitely true, lol...

Hopefully the 900 or so CCA battery I plan on replacing the stocker with still fits...

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RE: Will my system be any louder if I get a more powerf... - 10/12/2007 2:51:24 PM

Canadian88

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I got a different battery post with tons of extra space on it.

As for the big three I still plan on "wasting" the money for the wires...5 or 10 dollars? And the effort, shouldn't be too bad, I like working on my car.

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RE: Will my system be any louder if I get a more powerf... - 10/12/2007 4:43:06 PM

drperry

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The big 3 isn't really a "waste" as your truck will be a little happier with it...

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RE: Will my system be any louder if I get a more powerf... - 10/12/2007 5:13:12 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: drperry

That is definitely true, lol...

Hopefully the 900 or so CCA battery I plan on replacing the stocker with still fits...

it will fit i got an optima yellow top in mine they are so awesome optima batteries are soo much better than regular batteries

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RE: Will my system be any louder if I get a more powerf... - 10/12/2007 6:52:48 PM

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I'll have to see if I can find one for an affordable price, lol

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RE: Will my system be any louder if I get a more powerf... - 10/13/2007 9:08:49 AM

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When I had my sound system I also had a 10" sub and I wanted it to be louder but do to the room on my vehicle at that time I though I would buy a better 10" sub. The only difference that I had was that I could turn it up louder with out getting more distortion and bad rattle but it really was not worth the money to me. Don't know if this helps but I tried

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RE: Will my system be any louder if I get a more powerf... - 10/13/2007 9:22:33 AM

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mkay, well if the upgrades that cheap.....

you already have the wiring I take it, fuses, batt. connects. and so forth?

I do not have the big 3 done in my truck yet and I'm running around 950rms at the moment and I think my lights dimmed more with my old (smaller) alpine. alpine really dosent make an effecient amp in my experience, i think i remember reading it was around 60%.

while my sundowns rediculous at closer to 80%@2ohm

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RE: Will my system be any louder if I get a more powerf... - 10/14/2007 11:43:19 AM

Canadian88

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Burlisonm

When I had my sound system I also had a 10" sub and I wanted it to be louder but do to the room on my vehicle at that time I though I would buy a better 10" sub. The only difference that I had was that I could turn it up louder with out getting more distortion and bad rattle but it really was not worth the money to me. Don't know if this helps but I tried

That answers my question perfectly, thanks!

I like my alpine, every other component of my system is alpine, so I just followed suit. I don't really notice any inefficiencies with this power level, so I'm happy with it!

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Alpine S-type speakers in all 4 corners
Damplifier behind all speakers and in cargo area
Alpine CDA-9856 (iPod interface)
Alpine 10" type S Sub with 400W Alpine MRP-M450 amp www.secondskinaudio.com

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