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RE: Which is the best Capacitor Brand? - 11/12/2007 5:37:16 AM   
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instead of the neg to alt, do the engine to chassis ground.  Honestly, you shouldnt be dimming with the load that you have right now.  Something is suspect, and I would have someone check the grounds, and how everything is wired.

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RE: Which is the best Capacitor Brand? - 11/12/2007 3:07:52 PM   
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Ok.  I'll do that.  Now, today I just got the high output alternator tested and it is working fine.  And today, I also had the alternator that I currently have tested, and the battery too.  At idle it is perfect voltage.  I think it was either 14, or very close to it.  Then, we tested it with all the extras the car came with, except the bass.  I killed the bass(volume 0, but still had the door speakers on).  I had the headlights on, the hazards, the heater on high, and the rear defrost on.  The voltage was 13.something.  Then we turned up the bass to about volume 30, and it was still the same.  But if I turn the bass higher than that, (radio volume max is 50, i go up to like 42-45), the voltage goes down even more, and everything dims.  
    Now one thing I forgot to mention, my voltage needle is not in the right place.  Now I know you guys are saying I should've said this in the first place, but it really doesn't matter.  My voltage needle is never on 14.  When I had the custom gauges put in, it was never set right.  I am going to fix that eventually.  Although the false reading has worried me, because I see the voltage needle low, I do have the actual readings still on my capacitor.  The reading on the capacitor has gone down to like about 11.9 with headlights on, heater on, turn signals, and the sound system pumping like at volume 42.  Along with that, a lot of dimming.  So don't think I created this thread just because of a false reading on the cluster.  Not only that, but I have noticed that my turn signal is always very fast, but then when I have all of the accesories on, along with the sound system high, the turn signal gets a lot slower.  

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RE: Which is the best Capacitor Brand? - 11/12/2007 3:58:41 PM   
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you are using the stock voltage needle as your measurement?!?! USE A DMM at the battery. Dont use that stock crap.

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RE: Which is the best Capacitor Brand? - 11/13/2007 12:44:26 AM   
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I am using my capacitor to get an exact reading.  I drive with my rear bench down, and all i have to do is take a look back.  That is where I have seen the voltage go really low.  On the cap.

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RE: Which is the best Capacitor Brand? - 11/13/2007 12:46:05 AM   
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thats the votage of the cap, not the voltage of your battery or the alternator. Ofcourse the caps voltage is going to drop. That is its job.

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RE: Which is the best Capacitor Brand? - 11/13/2007 12:50:26 AM   
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So even though the cap is connected directly to the battery, its not the same voltage that I am getting from the alt and battery?  If that's the case, then I'll take it to Advance Auto Parts again, and this time, I'll have the voltage measured with everything running along with the sound system like at volume 45.  Yesterday I had it tested with the sound system only at volume 30. 

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RE: Which is the best Capacitor Brand? - 11/13/2007 1:13:31 AM   
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where is Advanced testing the electrical system at? If they are just watching the LED readout on the cap like you, then they are wrong. What you need to do is go buy yourself a $3 digital multimeter, turn on your car and turn up your audio. Attatch the DMM to the battery terminals and see if you are getting atleast 12V.

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RE: Which is the best Capacitor Brand? - 11/13/2007 11:36:36 AM   
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No, they actually brought out a machine, and put it on my battery.  Then we turned the truck on on saw the voltage on the machine.  It's the same machine used to test batteries, but it also has a setting to monitor the volts while the car is on. 

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RE: Which is the best Capacitor Brand? - 11/14/2007 5:18:02 PM   
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Just buy a TSUNAMI capacitor i have 1 and my lights no longer dim with my jl and pioneer amp

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RE: Which is the best Capacitor Brand? - 11/14/2007 6:42:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: felonyblazer96

Just buy a TSUNAMI capacitor i have 1 and my lights no longer dim with my jl and pioneer amp


No, he has more serious issues at hand.  please read the entire post before you give your ramdon useless advice.


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RE: Which is the best Capacitor Brand? - 11/15/2007 12:46:28 AM   
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Besides, the OP installed a higher farad cap, and still had problems, installing a different brand of cap will do nothing.

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RE: Which is the best Capacitor Brand? - 11/15/2007 2:11:19 AM   
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Ok, let me set things straight for the people that "got it twisted".  You guys told me that capacitors are junk, etc, but I also believed I had a faulty cap.    I went, I replaced the cap, thinking it would do me better.  Nothing.  I SPENT THE MONEY.  It didn't come out of anybody else's pocket but mine.  Do I appreciate your advice?  Am I taking it?  Yes.  I still listened to most of your advice.  Its not like I only replaced a cap and didn't listen to what everyone else said.  I did scrape the ground on the system, and I also sanded it down.  The ground seems fine to me.  I have gone to an auto parts store, and gotten the voltage tested, but it was only at volume 30 along with all the extras.  I am going to have it tested again.  The dimming and power drops only seem to happen like at about volume 40 and up.  (Radio max 50).  Yes, I am going to have the sound system inspected by a professional car audio place.  And I will also tell the mechanic to check the engine wiring.  Although I really think the engine wiring is all fine because it only happens when I crank up the system.  And "the big 3" really didn't help me that much, because I was still experiencing these problems with "the big 3".   Look, if you guys want to help me, and try to help me solve my problem, I would really appreciate it.  But please don't make it seem like I'm wasting your time, and my time, cause I'm really not.  You're right, I bought the cap, installed it, and wasted some money cause I thought it would solve my problem.  The bottom line is that I am trying anything, and doing as much as possible to fix the problem.  And now, I can't even focus on the problem that much, because I have a much bigger problem to fix---- the transmission shift cable.  Although I will focus on it more, the trucks functioning and performance is much more important than any mods or extras. 

And one last question...... I do not get any dimming at volume 30 with all the extras on.  Now, as I have said, if I crank it up to about volume 40, that's where the problem starts.  Do any of you guys get any dimming at all?  Even at a high or max volume? 

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RE: Which is the best Capacitor Brand? - 11/15/2007 3:03:23 AM   
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According to Crutchfield, your amp puts out 600W RMS @ 4-ohm and that it's only 4-ohm stable... are your subs wired up to be a 2 ohm load?


I don't have any dimming issues, even with everything maxed out, but then again, my amp is only 350W RMS.... I don't think I've seen it dim with my 800W lights on with the stereo maxed out, but I'm usually driving and above 1000rpm... Next time I'm out and about, I'll double check for ya...

And according to my volt meter in the dash, I go from just past the 14 line to dead center of the 14 line with the lights or stereo on max... The lowest was a 13.5-ish when I dipped to 500 or so RPM backing up my driveway... I'm still running the stock alternator and factory battery... Which has dead-shorted once, when I was in a river...

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RE: Which is the best Capacitor Brand? - 11/15/2007 3:18:23 AM   
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You see, you just gave me something else to look into, and I thank you for that.  This is the reason why I'm here, to get advice.  And now that you mention that Ohm stuff, I'm thinking about it.  I have no idea about anything, but I think that the Dual Subwoofer box that I bought at Best Buy, was either 1100 watts, or 1200 watts.  Also, it has neons that are connected to the amp.  The neons are connected to the 12V power source, because connecting it to where the speakers are can damage the neons.  I do know, that the subs had to be "bridged", because the sub box only has one set of wires.  Both subs are connected to only one set of wires.  They do not have 2 separate sets of wires.  And now that you mention the ohm thing, I'm going to have to look more into that, because maybe there is something wrong right there.  I am going to have to get it checked out, because I have no clue how any of that stuff works.  Thanks a lot. 

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RE: Which is the best Capacitor Brand? - 11/15/2007 4:28:52 AM   
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Yep, your subs are at a 2ohm load, but he still has some issues.  OP, I do advise you to take your truck to a professional who can diagnose your symptoms.  Do not buy anything else, even after talking to the professional, until you post here.  (by professional, i do not mean someone at BB or CC, no offense to them, but no)  Where are you located??? 

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RE: Which is the best Capacitor Brand? - 11/15/2007 4:40:07 AM   
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I am located in Northern New Jersey.  North Bergen is the town.  And btw, what does "OP", "BB", and "CC" stand for?  And since you say my system is at 2 ohms, what has to be done to set it to 4 ohms?

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RE: Which is the best Capacitor Brand? - 11/15/2007 4:51:53 AM   
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ok, op is original poster (you)
BB and CC are best buy and circuit city.

how do you have your subs wire to the amps.  are they on a positive and negative beside eachother, or positive from one side and neg from the other side?? 

Do you have an actual car audio shop within 30 miles of your home?




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RE: Which is the best Capacitor Brand? - 11/15/2007 7:14:24 AM   
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Oh, ok.  Sorry bout that.  lol  Well, now that you say that, my subs and the first cap that I had were installed at best buy.  The subs are connected positive from one side, and negative from one side.  I have two car audio shops within my range.  I don't think I'm going to go back to the one I have been going to, because that is the guy that sold me the capacitor that I currently have.  I am going to go to the audio shop that is right up my block.  It's pretty expensive, but I think it's worth it.  The guy said he'll charge me $29 just to look at it, and find the problem. 

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RE: Which is the best Capacitor Brand? - 11/15/2007 7:21:28 AM   
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I have subs almost exactly the same as yours. it looks a little different but they got the blue leds on around the inside. I don't know if its set up the same as yours but on the terminal cup, mine says 4 Ohm...

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RE: Which is the best Capacitor Brand? - 11/15/2007 7:49:10 AM   
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Well, I posted a link of my subs in a previous post.  I believe it also says something about being 4 ohms, but I don't understand any of this stuff.  lol 

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