5 watt difference on a head unit?
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RE: 5 watt difference on a head unit? - 12/15/2005 1:18:56 AM
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FatRyan
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dont go by that rating. that is just the max wattage rating. look up the rms wattage rating of each head unit your considering. ive found that pioneer's generally have the highest rms rating. some alpine have the same or close to the same. but as for other, ive only relaly found them to be lower (sony, kenwood, jvc, panasonic). im not sure what the rating are, but i know most pioneers are 22watts rms. my old kenwood was 19 watts rms. and believe it or not, those 3 watts/per channel make a HUGE difference. the higher rms head unit you get, the louder you'll be able to crank up the volume before the sound distorts. my vote is for pioneer, they are excellent units.
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RE: 5 watt difference on a head unit? - 12/15/2005 2:42:07 PM
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Canadian88
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Yeah, i'm just in the early stages of looking, it'll be a while before i actually buy anything. Thanks a lot guys.
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RE: 5 watt difference on a head unit? - 12/15/2005 2:51:17 PM
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blazin97
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Pioneer only if its the Premier, I hate all other Pioneer cd players.
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RE: 5 watt difference on a head unit? - 12/15/2005 3:46:44 PM
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FatRyan
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Pioneer only if its the Premier, I hate all other Pioneer cd players.
a premier is the same thing as the equivalent regular pioneer model except its got a couple features you'd find in the next model up.
< Message edited by FatRyan -- 12/15/2005 3:47:10 PM >
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Front: MB Quart pce-216
Rear: MB Quart pce-216
Comp amp: Orion 500.4
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Sub box: 2.5cubes net @ 38Hz /chamber
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RE: 5 watt difference on a head unit? - 12/15/2005 3:49:07 PM
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FatRyan
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i had problems with my pioneer they do sound good when there cracked up just there anti skip isnt that great every bump in the road would set it off and it would start skipping but it also wasnt a very expensive model serves me right for being a cheap ass
i think you just got a bad deck man. ive used many many pioneers, and they have 1 of the best anti-skip protections out there. and ive owned a couple of the lowest models of that particular year, and a few mid-range models.
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Front: MB Quart pce-216
Rear: MB Quart pce-216
Comp amp: Orion 500.4
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Sub box: 2.5cubes net @ 38Hz /chamber
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RE: 5 watt difference on a head unit? - 12/15/2005 4:20:52 PM
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LittleDan911
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I Love My Pioneer Cd/Dvd Its Great...I've Always Gone With Pioneer And Nothin Else...So I Say Pioneer Also
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RE: 5 watt difference on a head unit? - 12/19/2005 12:53:01 PM
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FatRyan
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i most likly did i bought it off a friend that wrecked there car and they said it was like a high model and they wanted 40 bucks for it so i was like what the hell it was a good deck just bumps screwed it up hey it was 40 bucks and i had it for a yr and a half so i got my moneys worth i just bought a new poineer and a new alpine head unit the alpine is for my blazer and the poineer im putting in my girlfriends car so ill see how this one works out
cool. but if the alp and pioneer are both brand new, i can tell ya now that the pioneer will sound better. alpine's SQ has declined in the last couple years
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RE: 5 watt difference on a head unit? - 12/21/2005 8:18:27 AM
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Canadian88
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I think i'm sold on Alpine, but i'll ask my buddy who works at besbuy, thanks. Is it possible to put a disk changer in the dash of my 03 blazer? Thanks
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Alpine CDA-9856 (iPod interface)
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RE: 5 watt difference on a head unit? - 12/21/2005 9:46:11 PM
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FatRyan
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I think i'm sold on Alpine, but i'll ask my buddy who works at besbuy, thanks. Is it possible to put a disk changer in the dash of my 03 blazer? Thanks
well try to get an older alpine deck...like 2002 or 2003. Youll be much happier with 1 of them than a newer one.
as for an indash cd changer, i really doubt that one will fit, but if you try anything, try nakamichi 6 disc indash unit. its pretty small for a 6 disc changer.
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RE: 5 watt difference on a head unit? - 12/22/2005 10:21:00 PM
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Canadian88 :
Pioneer Premier DEH-P670MP (CD/MP3/WMA) is the wasy 2 go!
It's MOSFET 50x4 ...will be buying one (off e-bay) ~$150US ...shld cost ~$80 to install..
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RE: 5 watt difference on a head unit? - 1/20/2006 8:29:48 AM
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Or get a stereo and amp, run the main speakers with the amp, couple smaller ones with the head unit. That's what I did for David's Blazer. Kraco tape deck running the stock speakers, Sony deck running 4 small speakers in front, RCAs back to Coustic 4-channel with 4 6x9"s, and a Rockford with a pair of Jensen 10"s.
You can put like 10 CDs on an MP3 format CD. Or, do like me and get a DVD player with over 1000 songs on one disk. Got my JVC for $240 shipped off www.ikesound.com but I'd recommend the Arsenal version of mine. I have the KD-DV5100:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/179578
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RE: 5 watt difference on a head unit? - 1/21/2006 6:43:56 PM
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FatRyan
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ORIGINAL: 85FSBSilverado
Or get a stereo and amp, run the main speakers with the amp, couple smaller ones with the head unit. That's what I did for David's Blazer. Kraco tape deck running the stock speakers, Sony deck running 4 small speakers in front, RCAs back to Coustic 4-channel with 4 6x9"s, and a Rockford with a pair of Jensen 10"s.
You can put like 10 CDs on an MP3 format CD. Or, do like me and get a DVD player with over 1000 songs on one disk. Got my JVC for $240 shipped off www.ikesound.com but I'd recommend the Arsenal version of mine. I have the KD-DV5100:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/179578
you cant always run an external amp and the internal at the same time. on some decks, the internal amp will shut off if the preouts are in use. just letting u know
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Front: MB Quart pce-216
Rear: MB Quart pce-216
Comp amp: Orion 500.4
Sub: 2 Kicker S12L7's
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Sub box: 2.5cubes net @ 38Hz /chamber
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RE: 5 watt difference on a head unit? - 1/21/2006 8:51:09 PM
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Canadian88
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Whew, lots of info. I'm probably gonna go with the Alpine though. I have always liked them. My buddy who works at best buy has one in his truck, and it sounds absolutely amazing. I don't know what year it is, but i'll figure it out. What's involved in installing one of these? Does anybody have any pictures of a mid installation? Are there any mods required? I did my own speakers no problem. I helped my dad do a deck, but I was kinda young, so i don't really remember. I've heard that the wiring can be tricky. I don't want to shell out dough to get it installed if i can do it myself, but at the same time, i want it done right. I have all the tools you could possibly need, so that's not an issue. Thanks.
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2003 4.3L 2WD Blazer 2DR K&N air filter
Alpine S-type speakers in all 4 corners
Damplifier behind all speakers and in cargo area
Alpine CDA-9856 (iPod interface)
Alpine 10" type S Sub with 400W Alpine MRP-M450 amp www.secondskinaudio.com
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RE: 5 watt difference on a head unit? - 1/22/2006 11:08:51 AM
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Oh my GOD!!! You don't actually install stereos using the techniques shown in those videos do you??? WOW! Man, and I've always said that even using crimp on butt connectors was bad. That is just wrong! I have ONLY used solder to wire any adapter harness and then used shrink tubing over the soldered connections. About the only other thing I would even think about doing would be to use the new butt connectors with shrink tubing on them already, but I still really don't like crimp connectors all that much.
I would NEVER think about just twisting the wires together and throwing electrical tape over them! I don't know how many stereos I have rewired because the previous install was hacked in using the techniques shown in those videos...
I seriously hope you were just joking!
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RE: 5 watt difference on a head unit? - 1/22/2006 12:41:11 PM
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Canadian88
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I would NEVER think about just twisting the wires together and throwing electrical tape over them! I don't know how many stereos I have rewired because the previous install was hacked in using the techniques shown in those videos...
I seriously hope you were just joking!
Holy **** yeah. I did a direct solder job on my speakers. That is so dangerous. All it takes is one little arc to start a fire. We are redoing the basement in my house, and we found two such wiring jobs. it looks like the previous owner did it. There is a regular wire, 15amps, which has been cut, stripped, and another wire has been run into it. They twisted the wires together, and put a **** load of electrical tape over it. WOW. No box or anything. My dad and i couldn't believe our house didn't burn down yet. Anyway, anybody got any tips for wiring a deck?
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2003 4.3L 2WD Blazer 2DR K&N air filter
Alpine S-type speakers in all 4 corners
Damplifier behind all speakers and in cargo area
Alpine CDA-9856 (iPod interface)
Alpine 10" type S Sub with 400W Alpine MRP-M450 amp www.secondskinaudio.com
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