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RE: Computer techies help please - 11/28/2007 1:24:28 AM
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drperry
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I have no problem with my GTX's fitting in. I never use pci slots anyways, no need. You dont want anything below the graphics card anyway cause it will cause cooling problems.
The 8600m is good for onboard graphics.
Actually, they don't block PCI slots... They block PCI-E slots ;) lol.
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RE: Computer techies help please - 11/28/2007 1:36:48 AM
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in my opinion acer is crap i just bought one on black friday and its a piece its sluggish and cannot fulfill my very basic needs i dont need it to do much internet microsoft word a powerpoint once in a while i use the computer for school mostly and the laptop i bought sucked it had 1gb ram and 100 gb hd space i messed up tho because none of the ads nore description showed its processor i was so excited by the price 300$ i missed tht bought it took it hom and i hate it and i shoul have put the 300$ into a new exhaust or sumthing lol i suggest for this computer u upgrade the ram to 2gb tht would be a wise decision if it is not ridiculously expensive over 100 is not worth it and if their is an option i might upgrade the processor but AMD is a great brand in my opinion but im sure others will call me an idiot and say to go intel or VIA or something else but last year i built a computer and i put an expensive AMD processor in it and i love it i ended gettin a AMD Athlon Xp Dual core and i think it has 3.7 ghz mayb a little less i put mine in a very small chassis and its very easy to manage when upgradeing i put it in a Shuttle chassis i forget which model its black and i was in California for vacation (live in Ohio) and i stopped into Silicon valley and picked up a 500 Gb 7200Rpm harddrive because it was on sale it might nmot spin the fastest but its alot of space and i also picked up 2gb of ram it wasnt really cheap tho i thin keach 1gb stick was 117 dollars or sumthing like tht but chevy owner to chevy owner id say this system will be sufficent for you unless you will be using it for like engineering which takes a big processor and ram because of the graphics requirements idk about playing games on it you would probably be ok doing tht but dont do anything else while playin gor it will be extremely slow and with the 320 gb harddrive your probably safe downloading songs o and tht 16x burner is good to probably an extra 70-100 bucks separetly i bought a westing house i thing is the brand 19 inch lcd monitor on sale and like costco or sumthing idk my mom picked it up when she lived in arizona and sent it to me but she got it for under 150 and i love it it has a nice clear wide screen and this is not really significant but i like the way tht the screem tilts lol (its tht little things tht always sell me) Summary of long post GET THE RAM UPGRADE ITS WORTH IT
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RE: Computer techies help please - 11/28/2007 2:30:23 AM
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TheBrettster
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I have no problem with my GTX's fitting in. I never use pci slots anyways, no need. You dont want anything below the graphics card anyway cause it will cause cooling problems.
The 8600m is good for onboard graphics.
Actually, they don't block PCI slots... They block PCI-E slots ;) lol.
If you buy a rubbish motherboard, my abit fal1ty has a pci slot between :P.
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RE: Computer techies help please - 11/28/2007 2:59:42 AM
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drperry
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I have no problem with my GTX's fitting in. I never use pci slots anyways, no need. You dont want anything below the graphics card anyway cause it will cause cooling problems.
The 8600m is good for onboard graphics.
Actually, they don't block PCI slots... They block PCI-E slots ;) lol.
If you buy a rubbish motherboard, my abit fal1ty has a pci slot between :P.
I'm much happier with with the PCI-E slots hidden... My soundcard AND my HDD controller card are both PCI 
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RE: Computer techies help please - 11/28/2007 4:11:24 AM
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I have my soundcard pop'd in the bottom slot to maximize heat mitigation.
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RE: Computer techies help please - 11/28/2007 4:27:14 AM
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jbark acers are good computers, but you gotta remember every brand is gunna put out a budget/value pc. you can find a cheaply priced computer, but its gunna suck the majority of the time, especially on black friday. The computers youre buying at retail stores are already sold at a loss, so when a store can put it on that much of a discount, you know it wasnt selling anyway....
you wouldnt buy a hyundai and expect lexus preformance would you?
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RE: Computer techies help please - 11/28/2007 4:55:10 AM
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jbark acers are good computers, but you gotta remember every brand is gunna put out a budget/value pc. you can find a cheaply priced computer, but its gunna suck the majority of the time, especially on black friday. The computers youre buying at retail stores are already sold at a loss, so when a store can put it on that much of a discount, you know it wasnt selling anyway....
you wouldnt buy a hyundai and expect lexus preformance would you?
Amen, I think acer's are excellent budget computers. I myself have an acer laptop that I use for buisness and I have absolutly no problems with it becides having to flash the bios. You gotta remember that computer probably has so much loaded junk on it that is slowing your computer down. In order for them to sell computers so cheap is that they have to sell "advertisment" on the computers such as the free trials etc.. When i bought this laptop it was a dog but like any store bought laptop myself or my friends buy the first thing I do is reformat it and install fresh windows/linux on it.
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RE: Computer techies help please - 11/28/2007 5:20:53 AM
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drperry
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I have my soundcard pop'd in the bottom slot to maximize heat mitigation.
Actually, most times it's best to have the soundcard as far away from the video card as possible...
At least it runs better at any rate :p
Less random crashes in XP with my old setup... Then again, that was AGP...
Though, I haven't had any hardware crashes except for HD's dying since I switched to Vista, lol.
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RE: Computer techies help please - 11/28/2007 9:49:42 AM
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what would cause a relatively new(custom built dual core)
computer to take nearly 30 seconds to load up the home page on the net.
bigger hdd in need, more ram? what part actually makes a computer fast on the net? DL songs etc. with a shaw high speed connection.
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RE: Computer techies help please - 11/28/2007 10:46:53 AM
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WolfPack
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its probably a bunch of other programs you've got running in the background using up your bandwidth. The system components only matter for opening your browser, after that, its your internet connection.
run a speed test (google speed test) and see what your download rate is. if the number is pretty high, and youre going real slow, then you gotta eliminate some processes. msconfig if you know what your doing, or get windows defender and use the software explorer.
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RE: Computer techies help please - 11/28/2007 1:45:56 PM
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TheBrettster
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what would cause a relatively new(custom built dual core)
computer to take nearly 30 seconds to load up the home page on the net.
bigger hdd in need, more ram? what part actually makes a computer fast on the net? DL songs etc. with a shaw high speed connection.
Ram, you could have the wrong kind in there as well. Are you using two different types of ram? Such as ddr 667 and ddr2 800
Perry, READ MAN! Thats what i said it is as far away as its gonna get from the video cards.
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RE: Computer techies help please - 11/28/2007 4:04:57 PM
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drperry
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GET THE RAM UPGRADE ITS WORTH IT
I beg to differ, as long as you have 2gb you shoudl be fine. Get a better processer. I have came close to peaking that so far but have not came even close to pegging the RAM(3gb).
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what would cause a relatively new(custom built dual core)
computer to take nearly 30 seconds to load up the home page on the net.
Connection speed, NIC, or ethernet cable. Could also be your Cable Modem or Router.
Also, if you're using 32-bit windows you won't be able to use any RAM over 3.25 or so GB, depending on how much memory your video card has... And not because of it "sharing" with the card... It's that 32bit windows can only handle so much...
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what would cause a relatively new(custom built dual core)
computer to take nearly 30 seconds to load up the home page on the net.
bigger hdd in need, more ram? what part actually makes a computer fast on the net? DL songs etc. with a shaw high speed connection.
Ram, you could have the wrong kind in there as well. Are you using two different types of ram? Such as ddr 667 and ddr2 800
Perry, READ MAN! Thats what i said it is as far away as its gonna get from the video cards.
I know you put it there for heat issues, lol, but mine is there because the computer is more stable due to IRQ issues... Or was when I had an AGP based board.
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RE: Computer techies help please - 11/28/2007 6:29:00 PM
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blazinloud
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This is what I have to deal with, LOL, make fun of me if you must.
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RE: Computer techies help please - 11/28/2007 8:11:45 PM
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otnietdehoooo
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Spacious 4.3 GB Hard Drive.... lol
anything you buy new is gonna be infinitely faster than that. if you're just gonna be a basic computer user (internet, MS office, music, pictures...) and not a big PC gamer, IMO you would be ok with any PC with a dual-core processor and 2g ram.
everyone has their opinions though so some might say somethings not good enough
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RE: Computer techies help please - 11/28/2007 10:23:49 PM
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TheBrettster
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12 Gauge + Your PC would be perfect.
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RE: Computer techies help please - 11/29/2007 1:15:50 AM
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drperry
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Hey now, Windows 98SE is the least resource consuming windows since 3.11!
At least of the ones worth having, lol.
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