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Studdering, Kills, Tranny Slips??? - 12/8/2007 9:50:12 PM   
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I have an issue. Earlier today i took my truck out. Started fine, ran fine, but drove crappy. Felt as if the tranny was slipping(RPM's increase, but no accelleration). Checked the fluid, and its fine. I dont know what is causing it. Then, i took it to my shop where my girlfriend and i replaced the front grill, when i pulled it out of the shop it began to run like crap. It would bogg down, threaten to kill, and not wanna accellerate. I would push on the gas, and it would just bogg. So i shut it off, started it up, and it barely wanted to stay running. I had to pump the gas vigorously in reverse to get it off the main street.

Any ideas on what is causing all this crap? The tranny screwing up, and not it not running? Please HELP! Id appreciate any thoughts and ideas! THANKS!!!!

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RE: Studdering, Kills, Tranny Slips??? - 12/8/2007 9:57:41 PM   
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whoops! you missed one...    you might want to edit that last line before the Admins get ya

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RE: Studdering, Kills, Tranny Slips??? - 12/9/2007 6:55:55 AM   
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Yeah, we can do with out all of the language.

Anyway, what are you workin' on here?  There are 3 different automatic transmissions used in the 1st gen trucks as well as quite a few different engines.


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RE: Studdering, Kills, Tranny Slips??? - 12/9/2007 4:54:01 PM   
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how can i find out that information? I know the engine is a 4.3 ...but the tranny idk.

sorry about the language, i was quite fustrated. I didnt need this to happen before xmas.

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RE: Studdering, Kills, Tranny Slips??? - 12/10/2007 6:21:12 PM   
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if its a 4.3 then its a 700r4,  in my experiance the  v6version of the 700r4 have a habit of leaking and failing


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RE: Studdering, Kills, Tranny Slips??? - 12/10/2007 6:23:22 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: southside

if its a 4.3 then its a 700r4,  in my experiance the  v6version of the 700r4 have a habit of leaking and failing


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not necessarily...      i have a 4l60e

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RE: Studdering, Kills, Tranny Slips??? - 12/11/2007 3:42:48 PM   
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year of the truck will help a bunch.

700R4 until the early '90's.
4L60 until '93.
4L60E '93 on.
In '98 they made it a two piece housing.

Teh internals are basically the same, however the three versions have differences.


No with that said. Crappy engine perforamance will affect trany performance, especially in a late modle truck. Teh puter reads the engine and adjusts the tranny accordingly.

What year is your truck, and verify the engine is a 4.3?
It would also help to know which fuel injection system you have.

My first thought is when was the last time you gave it a tune up?


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RE: Studdering, Kills, Tranny Slips??? - 12/11/2007 5:03:31 PM   
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Its a 1992. 4.3. It has like a carb/TB fuel injection.   The last tune up was about 1 year ago. Oil change 1 month ago. I just pulled the truck out of storage about 1 month ago. But whats weird is all day it ran fine except for the tranny slipping....then all the sudden it acts funny, dies, and doesnt wanna start? That leaves me lost because i dont see how the same problem can be related between the two.

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RE: Studdering, Kills, Tranny Slips??? - 12/12/2007 4:03:20 PM   
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quote:

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if its a 4.3 then its a 700r4,  in my experiance the  v6version of the 700r4 have a habit of leaking and failing


southside


not necessarily...      i have a 4l60e


i have yet to use a 4l60e   but the pre 94 v6 version of the 700r4 of which i have had mutiple failures  previous to my purchase, with failures caused by a leak in relitly fresh overhauls.

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RE: Studdering, Kills, Tranny Slips??? - 12/12/2007 6:35:45 PM   
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'94 would have a 4L60 tranny. Still uses a TV Cable to change gears.

Sounds like your issue is engine related. Wont start!
Storage, how much did you drive. Did you put anything in the gas tank when you put it in storage?
You could have varnish build up clogin up your injector(s). Fuel injection system should be a TBI/TPI.
Pour some ether down the intake and see if the truck will fire and die? If so, everything works except your fuel delivery.


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RE: Studdering, Kills, Tranny Slips??? - 12/12/2007 8:24:25 PM   
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well i just got back from my shop and heres what i concluded...

spark and compression is fine. Fuel delivery there is a problem. I came to this because i put tb and carb cleaner in the tb and it wanted to start. I tested the relay, and its bad. Its making no connection between the orange and the gray. I jumpered the orange wire(constant power) to the gray(fuel pump) and still got nothing. So therefore i believe the fuel pump and relay is bad. If you dont agree, please say so. Im open to all opinions.

As for the tranny, idk what it could be yet. Once its running properly, then i will focus on that.


But i am still open to everyone's opinions!!

Thanks for all the help so far! I appreciate it all!

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RE: Studdering, Kills, Tranny Slips??? - 12/23/2007 8:12:43 PM   
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Truck is fixed!!! Fuel Pump and Relay were junk. I replaced the Pump, relay, and filter, and she started right up! But what is weird, is that the tranny is not acting up anymore. Its shifting perfectly fine. BUT, there is a slight leak. Any common spots that the non-turbo tranny leaks at???

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RE: Studdering, Kills, Tranny Slips??? - 12/25/2007 10:26:41 AM   
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There are several places it could leak from, some are easier to fix then others.
The hardest is the input seal behind the torque converter, if this one is leaking you need to fix it immediealty. Taht $5 part could cost you $1500 if you let it go.

You need to crawl under the trcuk and try tio find the leak as best as possible.

Rear seal is easy, it leaks past teh slip yoke.
No rear seal on a 4x4, the t-case has a input seal, and if its leaking your t-case fills with fluid.

There is a gasket around the tranny dipstick tube, you wont be albe to see if its leaking, you have to run your fingers around it to see if its leaking. If so, wipe it dry, drive it, and chek again to make sure.

As I mentioned before the front seal, take teh torque converter cover off and see if there is fluid inside.

The tv cabel or electrical connector is another place to leak ont eh passengers side.

There is the vent hose on top of the tranny, howver that typicall wont leak unless you tranny is too full, or you cooked the fluid and it boiled out.

On the drivers side oyu have the governor, and the shift linkage.

Then again it could be the tranny pan gasket.

You need to crawl under and find out.
I highly recommend you get it fixed ASAP.
Post up where you think it is and we can walk you through the repair. Most are pretty easy.


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RE: Studdering, Kills, Tranny Slips??? - 12/26/2007 4:27:25 PM   
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Hey thanks! Hopefully this weekend i can get it to my shop and put it up on my lift and figure it out. Ill post once i find it. Thanks!

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RE: Studdering, Kills, Tranny Slips??? - 12/27/2007 2:32:15 PM   
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your welcome.

must be nice to have a lift in your shop. Wish I had a lift. gets old laying ont eh ground, thank god for old carpet and cardboard though.

I like your quote, its fromt eh Red Green Show. great show, unfortunately we dont get it all the time. Keep your stick on the ice!


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RE: Studdering, Kills, Tranny Slips??? - 12/28/2007 1:43:03 PM   
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your welcome.

must be nice to have a lift in your shop. Wish I had a lift. gets old laying on the ground, thank god for old carpet and cardboard though.

I like your quote, its from the Red Green Show. great show, unfortunately we dont get it all the time. Keep your stick on the ice!




haha! youre a good man! It took me a while to get a place with a lift. For the longest time i used to lay on the ground...without the cardboard and whatnot. too bad its like 25mins from my apartment! lol.

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