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Before I start tearing into the motor. - 12/13/2007 3:56:25 PM   
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I have a few questions....

I know I have an intake gasket leak, could this cause antifreeze to go into the exhaust?
If not then it would be a headgasket leaking right?

I've checked the oil and tranny fluid and they are good. But I'm still loosing coolant. Nothing is leaking anywhere though. The exhaust is white all the time.

What all will I need if it is the headgasket?
Gasket set and headbolts right? A Chiltons or Haynes book.

I'm thinking about doing a good tune-up while it's getting other new things.

Distributor cap and rotor, wires and plugs, PCV and Fuel filters, what else would I need to replace or atleast check out? I bought a new t-stat and rad. cap about 2 weeks ago.

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RE: Before I start tearing into the motor. - 12/13/2007 5:04:55 PM   
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If your intake gasket is leaking bad enough then coolant could get into the cylinders.
To check for a head gasket I would suggest performing a compression test.
It's a lot easier to replace just the intake gasket than to have to do head gaskets.
The head bolts can be cleaned and re-used, no need to replace them if you do a head gasket.

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RE: Before I start tearing into the motor. - 12/13/2007 5:46:47 PM   
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to do a compression test don't I have to fix the intake gasket first?

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RE: Before I start tearing into the motor. - 12/13/2007 8:48:18 PM   
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Get a factory service manual for your truck if you do extensive engine work yourself.  They cost more, but will be more detailed than a Chilton or Haynes manual.

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RE: Before I start tearing into the motor. - 12/13/2007 11:27:57 PM   
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quote:

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to do a compression test don't I have to fix the intake gasket first?


A compression test measures the pressure in the cylinder, if the pressure is low it will be due to leakage by the rings, valves or the head gasket.
No, you don't have to fix the intake first.

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RE: Before I start tearing into the motor. - 12/14/2007 5:18:35 AM   
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*Moving to Engine & Transmission*

*Merging my reply from this thread*

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ORIGINAL: swartlkk on 12/13/2007 at 10:28:39 PM

It is possible for an intake manifold leak to get into the exhaust as the coolant passages are right next to the intake runners.  However, the most common leak path is outside, followed closely by into the lifter valley (to the oil).

To diagnose a head gasket failure, a compression check should be done.  By comparing the compression cylinder to cylinder, you can determine if there is a leak.



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RE: Before I start tearing into the motor. - 12/17/2007 11:38:12 AM   
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Did the compression test today.
 
From rear to front
pass side was 180, 185, 175
driverside was 190, N/A, 190
I couldn't do the middle cause I don't have a swivel.

So what is my next move? Change the intake mani gasket right?

What kit do I need?

This one is $40 from autozone. I think this is the one I need.

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RE: Before I start tearing into the motor. - 12/17/2007 1:34:59 PM   
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Well, assuming that the middle cylinder on the driver's side is not the problem...  I would atleast want to look at the plug to assess the cylinder's health.

How did the other plugs look?  Any of them show signs of coolant?


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RE: Before I start tearing into the motor. - 12/17/2007 1:48:00 PM   
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What would they look like?

They were all black, the back two smelled like gas and the front two looked like they had oil on them too.

Do keep in mind I haven't started it in about a week and for some reason the battery was compleatly dead. I was using jumper cables to get it powered up and trying to start it for a while before I could do anything.

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RE: Before I start tearing into the motor. - 12/18/2007 7:32:47 PM   
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So did you get the center plug on the driver's side pulled?

Being black doesn't sound good, but it also doesn't sound like a coolant leak.  But you have to look at all of them.


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RE: Before I start tearing into the motor. - 12/19/2007 2:01:06 PM   
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MAJOR PROBLEM!!!!!

I just drained my oil and it was a sludgy greenish brown....
Last time I checked it was last Wednesday and I just checked it with the dipstick and it was good. Could it have been bad this whole time or could it have just done this now?

What do I do now?

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RE: Before I start tearing into the motor. - 12/21/2007 3:44:32 PM   
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Check your rad fluid and see what it looks like?

Typically if you drive with anti-freeze in the oil it will turn white/brown.
Sounds like you may have had some anti-freee in the catch container and it floated to the top when the oil was put in it.


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RE: Before I start tearing into the motor. - 12/22/2007 4:13:32 PM   
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Hanr... There is no antifreeze to check. I went and drained the oil to make sure there was no antifreeze in it and the greenish/brown sludge was what came out.



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RE: Before I start tearing into the motor. - 12/22/2007 4:22:52 PM   
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Started taking the motor apart today... I've got it down to the heads and can't figure out how to get the headbolts that are under the exhaust out. I took the manifold bolts out but there isn't enough room to get to the headbolts. I tried to loosen the bolts where it connects to the rest of the exhaust but they wouldn't budge.

So I have the intake completely clean and all the gaskets changed on it. I'm just waiting on a way to get to the exhaust side headbolts.

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RE: Before I start tearing into the motor. - 12/26/2007 9:03:06 PM   
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Get some PBlaster from your local auto parts store and spray the bolts holding the header to the rest of the exhaust system. Let that sit overnight......... The next day get a breaker bar, pipe, wrench around a 1/2 rachet, impact, whatever you need to break those bad boys loose. You don't NEED to remove the header, only loosen those bolts to move it over to get access to the lower head  bolts. I just did this job myself....

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RE: Before I start tearing into the motor. - 12/26/2007 9:06:36 PM   
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your changing the intake gasket right?

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RE: Before I start tearing into the motor. - 12/27/2007 2:36:12 PM   
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Hanr... There is no antifreeze to check. I went and drained the oil to make sure there was no antifreeze in it and the greenish/brown sludge was what came out.




greenish brown sludge sounds like you found your anti-freeze. It's mixed in with your oil.


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RE: Before I start tearing into the motor. - 12/28/2007 1:40:36 PM   
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Yeah I changed the intake gaskets and headgaskets....

It's all back together except the manifolds to the exhaust, the fan and shroud and the airbox.

I had it running last night for 20-30min and never overheated or even reached 210. Actually went to the halfway mark between 100 and 210 and just went up onemark and back down.



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