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RE: People with wheel spacers - 2/23/2008 5:56:52 PM
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Tippman7641
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if there stock wheels YOU CANT HAVE SPACERS, for both safthey amd mechanical reasons
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RE: People with wheel spacers - 2/23/2008 6:58:27 PM
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Zasder
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My buddy who I work with, put them on his blazer...
They snapped off on the highway, taking a turn.
Be carefull with them. some have had problems, some havent...Im pretty sure a few users on here have them with no problems.
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RE: People with wheel spacers - 2/23/2008 7:04:43 PM
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ORIGINAL: Tippman7641
if there stock wheels YOU CANT HAVE SPACERS, for both safthey amd mechanical reasons
elaborate...
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RE: People with wheel spacers - 2/23/2008 7:30:13 PM
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Tippman7641
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ORIGINAL: Zasder
My buddy who I work with, put them on his blazer...
They snapped off on the highway, taking a turn.
Be carefull with them. some have had problems, some havent...Im pretty sure a few users on here have them with no problems.
is this good enough example, we cant leaggley put them on at my work, i cant even put them on my own truck near teh shop
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RE: People with wheel spacers - 2/24/2008 9:54:09 AM
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willjones
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This topic has been argued to death. People are always going to believe what they have heard I had them on my old truck for 2 and 1/2 years. Wheeling it hard, towing a boat, and putting 63,000 miles on it. Never one problem. But then there are people that claim to have a wheel fall off after 2 weeks. But who knows if everything was torqued correctly and then retourqed after some miles.
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RE: People with wheel spacers - 2/24/2008 10:01:33 AM
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Blazin_Jason
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Sorry Will were you making a statement, or do you have them? I have a pair of 1.25" that I am going to put on the rear of my jimmy. I think I am just going to do what I normally do. A little bit of never seize, torque them properly, and then check them periodically.
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RE: People with wheel spacers - 2/24/2008 10:51:13 AM
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willjones
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I had them on my old truck. And I also bought them for my Blazer. I am going to put them on after I finish with everything else. I think that your plan is right on track.
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RE: People with wheel spacers - 2/24/2008 2:08:32 PM
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drperry
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if there stock wheels YOU CANT HAVE SPACERS, for both safthey amd mechanical reasons
Ummm... yes you can, and it's totally safe, so long as you torque them properly, and check them every oil change, you're safe...
Just make sure they're hub + lug centric... or at least hub centric.
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RE: People with wheel spacers - 2/24/2008 8:40:30 PM
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Hanr3
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Just fuel for thought.
GM designed the hub bearings to handle a specific balanced load. When you change the wheel/tire offset, you change the load on the bearings, you also change the Akerman angle, and the forces pushed up through your ball joints. Not too mention the extra effrot your power steering pump is exerting.
This of it this way, is it easier to carry a case of your favorite beverage next to your body or with your arms extended out in front of you?
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RE: People with wheel spacers - 2/24/2008 9:40:31 PM
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Jigg
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I've run lugcentric wheel spacers for 5 years. Currently, i have 2" on the rear, and 1.25" on the front. This is with 33x12.50 BFG KM's. I haven't had a single problem with them. I wouldn't bother with neverseize or locktite on them. You need to be checking the torque fairly often anyways, so there's really no point in it.
I wouldn't hesistate to run spacers on my vehicle. They're perfectly safe, as long as you properly torque them.
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RE: People with wheel spacers - 2/24/2008 9:56:07 PM
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Blazin_Jason
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Do you remember who makes or where to get the ones you have Jigg? I want to put either 2" or 2.5" on the back of my blazer and was wanting ones that were hub centric of both faces of the spacer. I guess lugcentric would be fine as well.
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RE: People with wheel spacers - 2/25/2008 5:14:45 AM
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swartlkk
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They're perfectly safe, as long as you properly torque them.
And that statement right there is where 99.9% of the problems come from. Its a crap shoot.
I'll say what I said the last time this topic came up (yeah, run a search, its been discussed before). The loads on the bearings WILL increase. I wouldn't worry about the rear end at all. The issues arise on the front wheel bearings. Using good parts, you may never have a problem. Worn OEM parts, "are you feeling lucky" should run through your head.
Many have run spacers without problem. Just because Justin has run them wheeling for 5+ years doesn't mean the next person hasn't had problems and that those problems are any less valid. I know of quite a few people that have had problems with either lugs snapping on lug centric spacers or with wheel bearings going out. These have been full size Chevy trucks, but the design is quite similar, if not heavier. However, I do not know what kind of maintenance was performed on these trucks.
If it were my truck, I would go with hub centric spacers at the least.
Bottom line is maintenance. You have to check the torque on a regular basis. Too tight or too loose and you run the risk of busting a lug, possibly loosing the wheel.
< Message edited by swartlkk -- 2/25/2008 5:22:03 AM >
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RE: People with wheel spacers - 2/25/2008 8:16:17 AM
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Jigg
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Yeah, without a doubt, the spacers put more stress on your front end. They're the same as getting wheels with less backspacing. As to lugs snapping and wheels falling off, that's an installer issue, and not the fault of the spacer. I've seen it happen to people with stock rims and no spacers (more often than people with spacers, actually). The lug nuts are corroded or overtorqued, and they snap. Once one goes, the others are more prone to snapping because of the increased force on each lug nut.
I've bought my spacers from cjbargains and completevalue on ebay, both are great to deal with. I've run like 5 different sets of wheel spacers in different combinations on my two blazers. I check the torque all the time, as i'm constantly doing maitenence or switching/rotating the wheels/tires.
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RE: People with wheel spacers - 2/25/2008 1:32:47 PM
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drperry
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Most of those spacers seem to be running grade 5 zinc plated studs...
Anyone ever stick grade 8 or stock studs into them?
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RE: People with wheel spacers - 2/25/2008 2:05:04 PM
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Blazin_Jason
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The ones I bought claim to be grade 8's.
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RE: People with wheel spacers - 2/26/2008 1:13:16 AM
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thegr81
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ORIGINAL: Hanr3
Just fuel for thought.
GM designed the hub bearings to handle a specific balanced load. When you change the wheel/tire offset, you change the load on the bearings, you also change the Akerman angle, and the forces pushed up through your ball joints. Not too mention the extra effrot your power steering pump is exerting.
This of it this way, is it easier to carry a case of your favorite beverage next to your body or with your arms extended out in front of you?
And this is why on a sealed bearing setup on a 2wd its not good to use adpaters or spacers!!!! I had my lugs snap clear off within a month of having them on, yes they were torqued properly and checked once a week!!!
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