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Diameter piping? - 2/1/2006 7:29:07 PM   
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My local muffler shop does a custom cat-back exhaust with your choice of muffler for $275. My question is what diameter piping should I look into getting for the best performance gain... They will go up to 3" on their piping, is that too big?

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RE: Diameter piping? - 2/1/2006 7:32:15 PM   
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Real expensive if you want stainless and stainless weld.

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RE: Diameter piping? - 2/1/2006 7:52:22 PM   
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Assume money is no object.

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RE: Diameter piping? - 2/1/2006 9:27:22 PM   
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I think it would be fine if its installed after the cat. Are you going to use the factory muffler?

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RE: Diameter piping? - 2/1/2006 10:14:00 PM   
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No I need to pick out a muffler too...

I read online that you should take the estimated hp at the crank with open exhaust, multiply it by 2.2, and that should be how much flow you should be getting from your muffler.

In my case, I estimated my hp with open exhaust to be 210, which would mean I need 462 CFM of flow... But I'm still confused about how everything is going to come together...

I think the problem is that I want PERFECT. Or at least to know perfect when I saw it... I have no idea at this point how to mathematically figure out the perfect length and diameter of the exhaust system to produce optimum power...

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RE: Diameter piping? - 2/1/2006 10:29:14 PM   
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I didn't know what the forlmula was for determining the exhaust diam.

On my "01 Impala I had the resonator removed and a Y pipe installed behind the gas tank. From there two stainless mufflers welded on. so from the cat on back, the diameter went from 2.25" to 2.75." Ran fine but the droning was excruciationg when ya had a hangover.

After a few years from driving and sitting in the snow, (I did not have a garage yet, nor did I shovel,) the aluminized pipes rusted.
I ended up getting stainless pipe put on, magnaflow resonator and, two new mufflers. Costing almost $1,000.00. (2.50" diam by the way.)

See what the diameter is on the cat back kits that are out there. Might be be a good reference.


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RE: Diameter piping? - 2/1/2006 11:02:47 PM   
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Well I am currently wondering where the heck I can even find a muffler for my blazer... I mean, the shop I'm going to do it at said they had some... But I don't want some low flowing flowmaster... and if I buy online and simply have them install it, I'll prolly save a pretty good amount of money... Anyone know where I can find a fitting muffler application for my blazer?

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RE: Diameter piping? - 2/1/2006 11:25:49 PM   
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Anyone know how much the stock muffler flows (in CFM)?

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RE: Diameter piping? - 2/1/2006 11:48:48 PM   
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Depends what brand you prefer. CLick here for Pacesetter.
CLick here for Gibson exhaust.

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RE: Diameter piping? - 2/2/2006 2:01:00 PM   
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First off you cannot "gain hp" from an exhaust systtem. The hp comes from the engine, the exhaust system restricts the amount of hp the engine can create.

The simple answer to your question. 2 1/2" pipe.

The muffler with the best flow rate is a glasspack.

Most aftermarket performance mufflers have baffles that redirect the air flow to aquire a tone. They provide less restriction compared to a stock muffler, and thus increase your engines hp slightly, less then 5hp. A stock muffler runs the air through the muffler 3 times before it exits the muffler.

The best investment, if you really want to increase hp, is to get rid of the stock exhaust manifolds in favor of some headers. The exhaust manifold/headers, collector pipes, y-pipes is where you will have the most effect on your engiens performance. By time the exhaust gets back to your muffler, there isn't much difference you can make in freeing up engine hp.

The cat back system is designed for sound. Is that tone really worth $300.



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RE: Diameter piping? - 2/2/2006 3:40:20 PM   
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quote:

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First off you cannot "gain hp" from an exhaust systtem. The hp comes from the engine, the exhaust system restricts the amount of hp the engine can create.

The simple answer to your question. 2 1/2" pipe.

The muffler with the best flow rate is a glasspack.

Most aftermarket performance mufflers have baffles that redirect the air flow to aquire a tone. They provide less restriction compared to a stock muffler, and thus increase your engines hp slightly, less then 5hp. A stock muffler runs the air through the muffler 3 times before it exits the muffler.

The best investment, if you really want to increase hp, is to get rid of the stock exhaust manifolds in favor of some headers. The exhaust manifold/headers, collector pipes, y-pipes is where you will have the most effect on your engiens performance. By time the exhaust gets back to your muffler, there isn't much difference you can make in freeing up engine hp.

The cat back system is designed for sound. Is that tone really worth $300.



So basically you are suggesting that for the best power to $$ value to skip the cat-back and go straight to an aftermarket header, collector pipe, and y-pipe?

You know of any companies that make these components for my application?

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RE: Diameter piping? - 2/4/2006 6:15:50 AM   
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Try Headmann headers, and the others listed above, most make complete systems.


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RE: Diameter piping? - 2/4/2006 2:09:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hanr3

Try Headmann headers


They don't make them for 2003 Blazers

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RE: Diameter piping? - 2/4/2006 2:14:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 4lowlife

Depends what brand you prefer. CLick here for Pacesetter.



Pacesetter doesn't make anything for a 2003 Blazer

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ORIGINAL: 4lowlife

CLick here for Gibson exhaust.



That exhaust system is for the 2 door ZR2 models only

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RE: Diameter piping? - 2/4/2006 8:14:13 PM   
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Here is a comparison pic I shoped together to show the differnce between the 2 models of gibson exhaust for the 2dr that you refer to. As you can see the ZR2 only version (Bottom) looks almost identical to the standard non zr2 (Middle) version. So I would consider sending them an e-mail asking them if the 4dr model (Top)shown will work for your 03...


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RE: Diameter piping? - 2/6/2006 6:17:57 PM   
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I have a Dynomax cat-back on my 95 that I got from summit racing. It is 2 1/2 inch piping, 2 1/2 is big enough for a Blazer, stock is 2 1/4 I believe. The only real thing i got out of it was 1-2 MPG and the sound, not much performance gain.

I looked on www.truckperformance.com and www.summitracing.com and didnt find any cat-back systems for your a non-ZR2 blazer. I agree with 20Blazer00 to check with Gibson and find out what the difference is between the kits....the ZR-2 may fit. You can also try searching google or another search engine for 2003 blazer performance exhaust.

As far as the headers, I think Edelbrock makes some, and heres a link to JBA headers for your 2003... JBA Headers

I wouldnt expect to pay less than $500 for headers, and then its pretty tight in the engine bay, so installing them will be a pain.

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RE: Diameter piping? - 2/6/2006 6:21:50 PM   
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Sorry, forgot to include about the muffler. I have a Dynomax Super Turbo muffler. It had CFM numbers on the box and they were higher than both Flowmaster 40 series and Gibson. Gives a pretty deep tone too, deeper than other Blazers i have heard, but its not too loud inside the cab like some exhausts, (doesnt drone).

Hope some of this helps.

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RE: Diameter piping? - 2/7/2006 3:40:21 AM   
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Thanks for the advice cherry

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RE: Diameter piping? - 2/10/2006 3:37:45 PM   
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strongboy 2005, check out the for sale section, timetoblaze has a jba catback listed for sale for $40+ shipping. for that price i would try it

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RE: Diameter piping? - 2/10/2006 3:42:31 PM   
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strongboy 2005, check out the for sale section, timetoblaze has a jba catback listed for sale for $40+ shipping. for that price i would try it


wow, nice, thanks for the heads up...

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