RE: Working on some door pods (first gen)
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RE: Working on some door pods (first gen) - 3/29/2008 9:43:56 PM
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Blazin_Jason
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Finally found a place in town today that had T-nuts small enough. Set the speakers in and got the t nuts sunk in and held with epoxy as well. Then mounted the ring for the mid. The tweeter ring was too large and wasn't going to fit very well. So I sanded them down, which now I wish I had only done the top part and the bottom. That way I would have more surface area for the fiberglass. Or I could have had the mount made from 1 piece of mdf. Waiting for some of the wood glue to dry, then I might try and wrap it. Would really like to get that started.
  
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RE: Working on some door pods (first gen) - 3/30/2008 4:06:28 PM
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Blazin_Jason
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Finally got some felt wrapped onto them. Have some resin on there right now as well. Not perfect, but so far so good. Now I get to start the real fun stuff :S
 
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RE: Working on some door pods (first gen) - 3/31/2008 9:39:06 AM
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dbleon
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Looks good man... where exactly on the door are they gonna go? I want to eventually put some tang band midbass drivers in my doors.
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RE: Working on some door pods (first gen) - 3/31/2008 11:02:07 AM
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Blazin_Jason
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These go on the door panels, where the map pocket is. Just drill out the plastic rivets that hold the plastic map pocket and carpet to the panel. I'm curious as to what you guys use for this type of thing, fiberglass mat or cloth/weave?
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RE: Working on some door pods (first gen) - 3/31/2008 11:10:49 AM
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dbleon
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These go on the door panels, where the map pocket is. Just drill out the plastic rivets that hold the plastic map pocket and carpet to the panel. I'm curious as to what you guys use for this type of thing, fiberglass mat or cloth/weave?
Cool... I didnt know those damned pocket came out!!! Great news to me! As per your fiberglass question, to do mouldings you use mat... the stuff that has fiber in all directions. You dont want to use the bi-directional weave. But for the top you did right by using fleece. Just give it more than one coat. Then bondo it up to get your shape. Since you used the backer board instead of making a mould from fiberglass you dont need fiberglass mat. It is however good to pour some resin inside your enclosure and swirl it around to make shure the backside of the fleece is coated. Some people put fiberglass matting on from underneath too... The goal is to make the face as non resonant as possible.
Any pics on the doors.
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RE: Working on some door pods (first gen) - 3/31/2008 11:22:08 AM
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Zygoat
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nice job man! i didnt know you were over here. i had the exact same speakers in my camaro and they worked great. had them mounted flat, or paralell to the door, and sounded awsome. but that was the stock location for them in the camaro. the speakers i took out obveously had come in contact with water, and they were fine. i am sure my new ones did too, but they worked fine untill i sold it.
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RE: Working on some door pods (first gen) - 3/31/2008 11:56:05 AM
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Blazin_Jason
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I used about 8sq. feet of mat on them both. Sure isn't the most fun stuff to work with. After doing so I was looking on s10forum (Zygoats favourite ) and looks like buddy there was saying to use weave. Looks like the cloth stuff might be easier to work with. I don't have any pics of them on the doors yet, as I still need to sand them down a little, then put on some kitty hair.
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RE: Working on some door pods (first gen) - 3/31/2008 12:07:20 PM
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dbleon
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I used about 8sq. feet of mat on them both. Sure isn't the most fun stuff to work with. After doing so I was looking on s10forum (Zygoats favourite) and looks like buddy there was saying to use weave. Looks like the cloth stuff might be easier to work with. I don't have any pics of them on the doors yet, as I still need to sand them down a little, then put on some kitty hair.
I thought you used fleece.... I dont see any mat.
DO NOT use the weave type.
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RE: Working on some door pods (first gen) - 3/31/2008 12:15:28 PM
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Blazin_Jason
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No I used felt for the form as shown in the pictures. Then I added about 3-4 layers of mat.
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RE: Working on some door pods (first gen) - 3/31/2008 1:45:26 PM
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neo71665
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Too late now but fleece aint the best stuff to use, it it soaks up too much resin, makes most guys not use enough layers of glass cause they think its stronger that it really is. Three to 4 layers aint really enough and will crack if bumped too hard with a careless foot, your gonna want to add another 3-4.
Spandex or even an old t-shrit work better for a backing, stays thinner with the right amount of layers of glass. Also using this if it doesn't look thick enough it aint.
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RE: Working on some door pods (first gen) - 3/31/2008 3:44:47 PM
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Zygoat
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After doing so I was looking on s10forum (Zygoats favourite)
yea... almost . actully the fourms are good just some of the staff thats not, and even at that most of the staff are good too.
ne way. lets see some pics!
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RE: Working on some door pods (first gen) - 3/31/2008 4:55:59 PM
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dbleon
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Too late now but fleece aint the best stuff to use, it it soaks up too much resin, makes most guys not use enough layers of glass cause they think its stronger that it really is. Three to 4 layers aint really enough and will crack if bumped too hard with a careless foot, your gonna want to add another 3-4.
Spandex or even an old t-shrit work better for a backing, stays thinner with the right amount of layers of glass. Also using this if it doesn't look thick enough it aint.
Fleece comes out the nicest IMO... At the local audio shop Ive seen some done with a t-shirt that had to be prepped ALOT before vinyl. With fleece you should get a better starting point. But as i mentioned above you should soak the inside of the enclosure with resin and apply glass sheets from uderneath on the back side of the fleece. This will be FAR superior to a t-shirt and pantyhose strength wise IMO.
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RE: Working on some door pods (first gen) - 3/31/2008 9:28:59 PM
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neo71665
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Fleece because it soaks up so much resin and is thicker gives guys a false sense of structure. Its weaker than you think. I started out using it but like I said it can be done and done right but will be thicker and add more weight than using spandex (what I prefer) or a t-shirt. I've never tried pantyhose. I still wouldn't turn anything out with less than 8 layers of glass. As far as covering, most of the stuff I've done has been paint ready when I'm done with it so covering shouldn't be a problem.
The local shops around here use fleece cause they can turn a product out faster with it and as long as it lasts till the warrenty runs out they don't care. If you see them building something for a personal ride or for comp use its a whole 'nother story.
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RE: Working on some door pods (first gen) - 4/4/2008 10:13:47 PM
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Blazin_Jason
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Well after applying the mat, I applied some kitty hair, and some body filler. It's pretty smooth but could use more work if it was going to be painted. I thought I could get some tweed locally, but nobody has any. So I am waiting on an order from yourautotrim for some. Overall I am pretty happy with how it's going so far. They are pretty much ready to be covered once it arrives. I'm thinking about maybe applying some resin to the rest of the hard board to protect from water.
 
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RE: Working on some door pods (first gen) - 4/4/2008 10:49:51 PM
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bobditts
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do you really need protection from water? I would hope that the interior of your car doesnt get soaked in water.
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RE: Working on some door pods (first gen) - 4/4/2008 10:57:06 PM
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Blazin_Jason
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Nope not the inside, but the rear part against the door. I need to get new window seals as mine are all rotten.
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RE: Working on some door pods (first gen) - 4/5/2008 9:30:42 AM
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bobditts
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I would suggest you build a water deflecting device to attatch to the inside of the door skin to divert the water instead of trying to battle the elements. IT is best not to have any chance of water near your speakers.
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RE: Working on some door pods (first gen) - 4/5/2008 7:42:10 PM
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neo71665
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I'd suggest just fixing the window seals.
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RE: Working on some door pods (first gen) - 4/5/2008 10:05:53 PM
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bobditts
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window seals is a false term, or sense of security. Every vehicle out there (even brand new cars) will still leak water through the "seals". This is why ever car has drainage holes in the bottom of the door.
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RE: Working on some door pods (first gen) - 4/6/2008 9:45:31 PM
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Blazin_Jason
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Bit the bullet and just ordered some new window seals for both my trucks :( Needs to be done though. The speakers don't sit very far into the door anyways. Just don't want too much moisture to be absorded into the wood is all I was thinking of.
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