RE: blazer's off-road ability
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RE: blazer's off-road ability - 5/16/2008 4:55:07 AM
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Idriveachevy
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Whos white blazer in the background?
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RE: blazer's off-road ability - 5/16/2008 5:15:01 AM
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lwill only call an h1 a real hummer, and they would dominate almost every truck out their stock if not all, the h2s are big ass suvs, they cant even make it over a 3 foot snow bankquote:
ORIGINAL: drperry
95% of that Hummer breaking was the idiot driver, lol.
So you're in a hummer pulling up to a trail opening, 6 feet wide, your friend has a suzuki samurai, same trail. Im damn sure that your friend is having a blast, while your sawing down the trees to get in.
Sorry about the double post, didnt know who to do two quotes.
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RE: blazer's off-road ability - 5/16/2008 11:46:04 AM
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So the owner of this truck is a member of the BF? I wanna know where he got that bumper! Does anybody know?? If it fit, I could modify it so that the outer lights are my turn signals. Combine it with a phantom grille, and...hmmm....
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RE: blazer's off-road ability - 5/16/2008 11:53:10 AM
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Haha you sure do! Check out this post http://www.blazerforum.com/fb.asp?m=137976
But I believe in another thread he had the link or named the maker...but said they don't make them anymore? Eh I dunno..i'm probably crazy.
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RE: blazer's off-road ability - 5/16/2008 12:03:32 PM
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Psychropod
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Wolf - that is funny as hell. I don't even remember posting that before. LMAO!
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RE: blazer's off-road ability - 5/22/2008 5:50:49 PM
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I have been in and out of places in 2wd that jeeps and hummers get stuck in 4wd, long live my blazer! lol! 
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RE: blazer's off-road ability - 5/24/2008 1:53:12 AM
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drperry
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I have been in and out of places in 2wd that jeeps and hummers get stuck in 4wd, long live my blazer! lol!
Then, either they had crappy tires or REALLY didn't know how to drive 
I love my Blazer, but stock for stock, I know if I drove a Jeep, it would obliterate my Blazer in most things off road...
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RE: blazer's off-road ability - 5/24/2008 5:20:33 PM
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Stock for stock the S10 Blazer beat teh Jeep in a off-road comparision. Peterson compared the S10-Blazer the first year it came out against other 4x4s, and it won. It was the only year iPeterson had the S10-Blazer in the contest.
http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/featuredvehicles/131_0802_2008_4x4_of_the_year_results/index.html
http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/features/131_0704_1977_2007_timeline_4wheel_off_road_magazine/1981_1985.html
http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/featuredvehicles/131_0707_1983_1993_chevy_s10_blazer/index.html
Jeeps are popular becuase of thier military history, and thus there following at first by former military guys. Jeeps are not the perfect off-road vehicle. There short wheelbase creates all sorts of problems, it makes them unstable while climbing and in off camber situations. One common upgrade for serious Jeeps on tires over 35" is stretching the wheelbase to 100". Do you know the wheelbase of a 2 dr S10-Blazer? 100.5" Stock its better then a Jeep.
Both the S10-Blazer and Jeep use similar t-cases. Over the years the t-case has changed, however the NP207, and NP231 were common to both vehicles.
Look at the tranny. The 700R4 is a far better tranny then the Heeps, it has a lower first gear and a higher overdrive. Better off the line/crawling and better on the highway. Plus better gas mileage. Yes, your S10pBlazer gets batter gas mileage then the Heep. A common upgrade to teh Jeep is dropping in a 4.3 and 700R4 tranny. Then hook them up to a NP231 t-case, guess what, your Blazer comes with them stock. no "upgrade" needed.
Is a solid axle better? Define better?
H1 have IFS and IRS, tehy are pretty capable right out of hte box. The lunar lander was/is 4wheel independent supsension. If the solid axle was that much better, why didn't it make the trip to the moon, and that was back in the '60's?
Which suspension system is used on the race trucks? Solid axle of IFS?
IFS with a live rear axle. Yep, IFS is winning the off-road races. Sure they are custom built units and cost a ton, however the same money could be dumped into a solis axle, however the IFS systm has proven its superiority in the racing circuit. The trouble is the aftermarket hasn't built and sold an ungrade for IFS YET! Plus the manufactures are using aluminum IFS housings, which fial when a locker and big tires are installed.
Petersons latest mag did an article on snow wheeling in Canada. Guess what the hot set up is up in the cold country in the snow. IFS!
As of right now the only race circuits still using solid axle is rock crawling and mud racing. Hard to find 2.5 ton IFS axles to fit under a truck. The 2.5 ton military axle is found under teh Monster trucks, and military trucks are everywhere. Google OSHGOSH trucks, tehy are building Off-Road earth moving equipment with IFS. It can be built to survive extreme conditions.
http://www.oshkoshdefense.com/defense/products~lvsr~home.cfm
To answer the question as to why Jeeps are so popular?
Simple, they have attained cult status. They are no more capable right out of hte box then any other 4x4 right out of the box.
To anser the question as to which is better?
The S10-Blazer is better right out of hte box. It already has all the parts the Jeep guys want, except the front axle. One last thing on the front axle. Sure the Blazer has a IFS, however it is a recerse cut gears. Reverse cut gears are stronger then regular cut gears in a front axle. The week point on a Jeep is the u-joint, and the week part under the Blazer is the cv alxe. Which is easier to replace on the trail? Yep teh CV axle.
Then again I AM BIASED!
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RE: blazer's off-road ability - 5/25/2008 12:12:36 PM
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Maybe the fact that I don't care about the Heeps I drive, so I'd beat the piss out of it, as opposed to taking it easy on my Blazer is why I'd do better in a Heep off-road
The only real issue with the IFS of the S-Series, is that it's NOT built for a lot of hardcore off-roading...
A lot of the guys at ZR2USA are replacing idler arms after one outing, lol.
That's the one of the reasons people SFA the s-series...
That, and it's cheaper for gigantic lifts.
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RE: blazer's off-road ability - 5/25/2008 5:14:43 PM
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my roommate has a jeep, and ive driven it a few times, and just from that angle i find the jeep to have more of a 'sitting in a tin can' feel than a blazer, its seats get uncomfortable after 5 min, im a taller dude so i find it cramped. if im on a trail for the day, i dont want to be stuck in a sardin can in the boiling heat, plus the fact im extreamly freaked out about bears (living by the rockeys) so folding down the back seats is a big bonus for wimps such as myself (not to mention street driving, where a little breeze almost knockes you off the road when your going above 60k)
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RE: blazer's off-road ability - 5/27/2008 7:31:39 AM
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I have used mine extensivley on moderate off-road. I am usually on roads that vary from well graded forest roads to washed out cattle ranch trails. It doe's a very nice job.
Using stock wheels, you don't have too much clearand but skilled driving can get you through.
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RE: blazer's off-road ability - 5/29/2008 1:33:31 PM
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drperry
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You can disconnect the front sway bar fairly easy... the ZR2 guys do it a lot...
And I have an iron front diff... any 2nd gen 5 speed has one. More than strong enough for a locker...
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RE: blazer's off-road ability - 5/29/2008 1:49:59 PM
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But how many 5 speeds are out there compared to automatics? I still want your front axle..
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RE: blazer's off-road ability - 5/29/2008 1:54:53 PM
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Quite a bit, actually
There's a few places that sometimes carry them... Dealership has them as well...
And you don't want the rear axle? lol 8.5" baby!
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RE: blazer''''s off-road ability - 6/5/2008 9:24:04 AM
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I would like to say that STOCK blazers do quiet well! I have a friend who had a completely stock suspension 4dr blazer with 30" MT''''s and it was keeping up with george (Black lifted blazer *PS I took that pic*) and fully lifted full sized trucks when we went to RC. I was impressed!
And about the stock lockers... My truck came with the G80 code. So it came stock with the LSD! :) no "One wheelie peelies" for me! :) HAHA!
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RE: blazer''''''''s off-road ability - 6/5/2008 9:42:18 AM
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nj4x4blaze
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Yea you''re lucky you have that rear. I should of done that **** when I took my rearend apart.
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RE: blazer''''''''''''''''s off-road ability - 6/5/2008 9:53:26 AM
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drmrman
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Def a good idea! :)
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RE: blazer''s off-road ability - 6/17/2008 8:23:37 AM
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pbishop
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Better yet, ILTIS, old canadian military jeep. Now that is something worth off-roading with. Not as big as an H1, it can go anywhere. When I say anywhere, i mean anywhere. Trust me, those things are amazing if you dont tip over, but that depends on who''s driving and wether or not he decides to jump a snow bank going 60 km/h. But thats another story.
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