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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/1/2008 3:12:15 PM
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WolfPack
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So my local news station picked up this story...but it appears they're trying to make their strike more about their employers refusing to pay them more...not so much them protesting the cost of diesel.
That could actually work. But the big lines are still prohibited from striking as they are involved in trade. Looks like the little guy's gonna lose here
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/1/2008 3:34:55 PM
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ukblazer
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you gotta love a 78% tax on gas in England...
Not me buddy! the fuel station operators make about a penny per litre, the fuel companys 2 or 3, we're constantly told that it's to encourage us to use public tansport,
Problem is that all the busses, most of the trains run on diesel, so when the price of fuel goes up, so do the fares, It's cheaper for me to drive my Blazer from Bristol on the west coast to London in the east than it is to get a train.
The reality of it is in th UK the fuel tax, road fund duty props up the social security system and NHS.
The other reality for me and my wife is that as we both work and haven't got kids that we're not entietled to anything although we pay loads.
opec is a scam in my opinion, as one of you said about the gulf of mexico, it's similar for the north sea oil fields, loads under there apparently, Brent crude is supposed to be v.high quality too.
I don't supppose the strike will have nuch effect, but sometimes people just have to vent their frustration. so long as they don't hurt anyone
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/1/2008 3:52:11 PM
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Yes, the last 'depression' we had was in the 1930's when national unemployment was at 25%! The figure for February this year was 4.8%, so 'depression' is not even in the cards.
come to michigan, our economy is in a full out depression, we hold the largest one way Uhaul rentals in the country. more than 22,000 people have left from the city of Detroit (shame of michigan) and that is not counting the hords of people leaving the suburbs. my neighborhood never had more than one house for sale at a time when i was a kid and they would only stay on the market for weeks, now there are over 60 houses for sale and most of them have been up for months. Our governor is a moron and the mayor of our largest city, kwame, has cost the city over $9 million in his latest scandel. my dad is about to lose his job, the store i work at has cut employee hours in half because sales have dropped to nothing. and its still getting worse
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/1/2008 6:33:41 PM
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Taymacjack
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ORIGINAL: Taymacjack
you gotta love a 78% tax on gas in England...
Not me buddy! the fuel station operators make about a penny per litre, the fuel companys 2 or 3, we're constantly told that it's to encourage us to use public tansport,
Problem is that all the busses, most of the trains run on diesel, so when the price of fuel goes up, so do the fares, It's cheaper for me to drive my Blazer from Bristol on the west coast to London in the east than it is to get a train.
The reality of it is in th UK the fuel tax, road fund duty props up the social security system and NHS.
The other reality for me and my wife is that as we both work and haven't got kids that we're not entietled to anything although we pay loads.
opec is a scam in my opinion, as one of you said about the gulf of mexico, it's similar for the north sea oil fields, loads under there apparently, Brent crude is supposed to be v.high quality too.
I don't supppose the strike will have nuch effect, but sometimes people just have to vent their frustration. so long as they don't hurt anyone
Thats insane...I still dont know why people go after the "big oil corporations" when they are making only a few cents on the dollar; our own goverment is making somewhere around 60 cents on the dollar (last i heard) free an clear. I still think gas stations should have a price breakdown visible for everyone to see when they fill up...
crude oil = OPEC
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/1/2008 7:06:30 PM
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WolfPack
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I still think gas stations should have a price breakdown visible for everyone to see when they fill up...
So you can drive to the next gas station with a better price breakdown that makes you happier? 
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/1/2008 7:17:51 PM
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ORIGINAL: Taymacjack
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ORIGINAL: ukblazer
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ORIGINAL: Taymacjack
you gotta love a 78% tax on gas in England...
Not me buddy! the fuel station operators make about a penny per litre, the fuel companys 2 or 3, we're constantly told that it's to encourage us to use public tansport,
Problem is that all the busses, most of the trains run on diesel, so when the price of fuel goes up, so do the fares, It's cheaper for me to drive my Blazer from Bristol on the west coast to London in the east than it is to get a train.
The reality of it is in th UK the fuel tax, road fund duty props up the social security system and NHS.
The other reality for me and my wife is that as we both work and haven't got kids that we're not entietled to anything although we pay loads.
opec is a scam in my opinion, as one of you said about the gulf of mexico, it's similar for the north sea oil fields, loads under there apparently, Brent crude is supposed to be v.high quality too.
I don't supppose the strike will have nuch effect, but sometimes people just have to vent their frustration. so long as they don't hurt anyone
Thats insane...I still dont know why people go after the "big oil corporations" when they are making only a few cents on the dollar; our own goverment is making somewhere around 60 cents on the dollar (last i heard) free an clear. I still think gas stations should have a price breakdown visible for everyone to see when they fill up...
crude oil = OPEC
^^that graph is jacked up! 28% for refining is smaller than the 14% for taxes makes people think were getting ripped off on taxes.
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/1/2008 7:23:11 PM
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Taymacjack
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I still think gas stations should have a price breakdown visible for everyone to see when they fill up...
So you can drive to the next gas station with a better price breakdown that makes you happier?
Yes I like to know where my money is being invested...
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/1/2008 7:26:30 PM
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WolfPack
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Haha that's fine, I was just saying you're not going to not fill up just because of a price breakdown...and if they were required to post that, you'd see another 2 cents tacked onto that price breakdown that said 1% - Explanation of Cost
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/1/2008 7:31:48 PM
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Taymacjack
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ORIGINAL: Taymacjack
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ORIGINAL: ukblazer
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ORIGINAL: Taymacjack
you gotta love a 78% tax on gas in England...
Not me buddy! the fuel station operators make about a penny per litre, the fuel companys 2 or 3, we're constantly told that it's to encourage us to use public tansport,
Problem is that all the busses, most of the trains run on diesel, so when the price of fuel goes up, so do the fares, It's cheaper for me to drive my Blazer from Bristol on the west coast to London in the east than it is to get a train.
The reality of it is in th UK the fuel tax, road fund duty props up the social security system and NHS.
The other reality for me and my wife is that as we both work and haven't got kids that we're not entietled to anything although we pay loads.
opec is a scam in my opinion, as one of you said about the gulf of mexico, it's similar for the north sea oil fields, loads under there apparently, Brent crude is supposed to be v.high quality too.
I don't supppose the strike will have nuch effect, but sometimes people just have to vent their frustration. so long as they don't hurt anyone
Thats insane...I still dont know why people go after the "big oil corporations" when they are making only a few cents on the dollar; our own goverment is making somewhere around 60 cents on the dollar (last i heard) free an clear. I still think gas stations should have a price breakdown visible for everyone to see when they fill up...
crude oil = OPEC
^^that graph is jacked up! 28% for refining is smaller than the 14% for taxes makes people think were getting ripped off on taxes.
And 28% is smaller than the 50% for crude! The government has there hands in refining as well. The EPA sets "pollution standards" which makes the refining more expensive (especially with diesel ). The standards also cause vehicles to get worse mpg.
< Message edited by Taymacjack -- 4/1/2008 7:43:19 PM >
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/1/2008 7:34:52 PM
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Taymacjack
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Haha that's fine, I was just saying you're not going to not fill up just because of a price breakdown...and if they were required to post that, you'd see another 2 cents tacked onto that price breakdown that said 1% - Explanation of Cost
uhh i thought you were being sarcastic, so i was being sarcastic back. I just think gas stations should do that so customers know why the prices are the way they are. Your right, the station would probobly would add on a cent or two..
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/1/2008 7:45:06 PM
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if it comes down to either the endangered animals or drilling for oil....... the politicians and the general public are going to choose the oil. even though we have more fuel efficient cars, those are new and many americans can't afford "new" so we are appealing to the rich and blaiming the poor for mass oil consumption and oil prices are still going up so have we realy made a difference yet? i don't think so. if everyone can't afford to buy a hybrid our an alternate fuel powered car they have nothing but gas to rely on and the people over seas are relying on that.
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/1/2008 8:07:17 PM
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Rubber Ducky.....I think we got a convoy......
the thing that no one really considers about diesel being so very expensive..(Michigan being on of the most expensive states for diesel) Yeah the prices of goods..etc..go up.....look at all the other services that use diesel....Fire fighters..Ambulance companies...fire fighters are usualy controlled by city budgets...and most ambulance companies are private...you can't "raise the prices" as medicare and medicaid will only pay certin amounts..ditto for private insurance companies..yeah...and try and collecting money that's owed from you "strugling minum wage person" that's next to impossible...
besides the day and age of owner/operators is nearing the end...even "small" companies of 250 or so trucks...are going out of business...add it to the long list of things going to crap in the good ol united states....
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/1/2008 8:31:17 PM
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OK, I have a good friend that is a trucker with AD Transport which is based in Canton Michigan. He is not an Owner Operator (O/O). He has told me that this is a very real rumor. Not only are O/O drivers hanging it up, some time this summer a majority of ALL the drivers are going to stop. I believe that this is going to work. All this crap about "don't buy gas on this day" is garbage. Think of the millions of dollars that the Gasoline Cartel takes from us EVERYDAY. Do you really think that one day of bad revenue is going to hurt them? I highly doubt it. Now what we should be doing is stop buying gas from a certain company. Let's say exxon for example. If everybody stops buying gas from exxon supplied companies that will make exxon drop their prices to boost their sales. Then once they drop their prices others will follow suit so as to not be out done by exxon. The reason something like this would work is because people would be able to carry on in their normal everyday lives. We would still be able to buy gas and drive places. The only inconvenience we would suffer would be MAYBE changing gas stations. Big Deal. I would be willing to go to a different gas station if it meant dropping gas prices.
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/1/2008 8:54:32 PM
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Agreed yooper... gas is marked up around 300-400% above the actual costs of crude and refining per gallon! And when gasoline is produced, there is little waste, the stuff not used for gas is used for petroleum bi-products! Honestly, It is oil tycoons who kill us on the prices. They cant stand only making $30 billion this year, they need to make $35 billion! remeber, insurance on 8 ferraris is expensive as hell!! geez, maybe if we could find a way to lower insurance on high end cars/homes, we could lower gas prices! The truth is, when we get a new president (not saying there is a direct correlation between bush and gas prices!! I am no conspiracy theorist!) gas prices will likely drop a bit. If you think about it, the government retains the right and has the power to limit what kind of price companies can charge for gas! (in example, they can only charge a certain % above what it costs to make the product) The problem is that several people in positions of power currently own stock in oil companies and their pockets are getting fatter as we speak. . . . . . Not saying this will happen, but it is likely that once we are rid of the oil tycoons, we will see lower gas prices.... Also, even with strict EPA regulations, Diesel is still cheaper than gasoline to produce! I can probably get some exact figures if youd like... My dad is an operator for a major oil refinery (he is one of only 3 people that do his job out of well over 100,000). . . It does not come close to costing $4.00 a gallon to produce anything!
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