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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/1/2008 10:19:41 PM
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well i can get it for free, 2 years of restaurant works can get you friends. However, giving them 10cents back a gallon will convince them to not give it away to independents.
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/2/2008 12:39:24 AM
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Agreed yooper... gas is marked up around 300-400% above the actual costs of crude and refining per gallon! And when gasoline is produced, there is little waste, the stuff not used for gas is used for petroleum bi-products! Honestly, It is oil tycoons who kill us on the prices. They cant stand only making $30 billion this year, they need to make $35 billion! remeber, insurance on 8 ferraris is expensive as hell!! geez, maybe if we could find a way to lower insurance on high end cars/homes, we could lower gas prices! The truth is, when we get a new president (not saying there is a direct correlation between bush and gas prices!! I am no conspiracy theorist!) gas prices will likely drop a bit. If you think about it, the government retains the right and has the power to limit what kind of price companies can charge for gas! (in example, they can only charge a certain % above what it costs to make the product) The problem is that several people in positions of power currently own stock in oil companies and their pockets are getting fatter as we speak. . . . . . Not saying this will happen, but it is likely that once we are rid of the oil tycoons, we will see lower gas prices.... Also, even with strict EPA regulations, Diesel is still cheaper than gasoline to produce! I can probably get some exact figures if youd like... My dad is an operator for a major oil refinery (he is one of only 3 people that do his job out of well over 100,000). . . It does not come close to costing $4.00 a gallon to produce anything!
That Audi is silver. Not the color silver. Its literally made out of silver...
oh and i doubt the government will do anything about gas prices...they make more on fuel than the "oil tycoons" do..
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/2/2008 8:29:46 AM
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Haha oh wow..the lowest populated, yet highest producing oil-rich country in the world has expensive houses and cars? How dare they...
It's still a business...how much would you have them sell the oil for? Just enough to make a dollar a day for their family? 2 dollars? If demand runs uninhibited...then the price will run up too. The problem is that since it is inelastic, no one can get it to drop back down once it's up.
And yea the government makes a whole lot of money on oil...but it's all in the form of taxes, tariffs, and trade penalties. And remember the government isn't one guy sitting back collecting money. They money they pull in (as outrageously high as it is) goes back into the country to keep up roads (for all us driving) and to make up for ignorant, unthinking people that go on strike despite the fact that they will have no effect towards their goal (truckers...see OP). Don't think your 'stolen' gas money is going to the right place? Vote someone else into congress.
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/2/2008 12:45:26 PM
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I believe BobTheBlazer, that you have opened a huge can of worms........and I like that.
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/2/2008 10:13:56 PM
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Taymacjack
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Haha oh wow..the lowest populated, yet highest producing oil-rich country in the world has expensive houses and cars? How dare they...
It's still a business...how much would you have them sell the oil for? Just enough to make a dollar a day for their family? 2 dollars? If demand runs uninhibited...then the price will run up too. The problem is that since it is inelastic, no one can get it to drop back down once it's up.
And yea the government makes a whole lot of money on oil...but it's all in the form of taxes, tariffs, and trade penalties. And remember the government isn't one guy sitting back collecting money. They money they pull in (as outrageously high as it is) goes back into the country to keep up roads (for all us driving) and to make up for ignorant, unthinking people that go on strike despite the fact that they will have no effect towards their goal (truckers...see OP). Don't think your 'stolen' gas money is going to the right place? Vote someone else into congress.
Dude. I don't care about the strike. I don't care about oil companies. I don't care about sheiks. Why do you keep telling me about why the strike wont work? I do not care. I'm just showing that everyone is getting a cut out of the gas prices, not just "oil companies". I do have a problem with OPEC, since they just decrease production when ever they want the price of crude to rise. I understand that thats the way it works though. And I do have a problem with our government as well, because it allows environmentalism to run our economy. And don't get me started on the government "building roads" with tax dollars. They pay government workers 60 bucks a hour to hold a stop/slow paddle. They don't even build roads to the minimum industry standards so they can come back and repave the same road 2 years later. I'm sure its not that way in every state, but thats the way it is around here...way to much government waste...
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/2/2008 10:14:44 PM
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I believe BobTheBlazer, that you have opened a huge can of worms........and I like that.
Eh, well....a girl's gotta have some kind of excitement in her life!
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/2/2008 10:35:58 PM
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Eh, well....a girl's gotta have some kind of excitement in her life!
amen sister!!
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/3/2008 9:37:31 AM
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aight heres my solution
1. drop in diesel engine to blazer
2. run on bio-diesel
3.  for free oil from reastarunts
lol
If you can get the bio deisel manufactured cheap enough, currently it cost sligthly more to produce than regular deisel, even when the waste vegie oil is provided free.
Dunno about you guys but even if you make your own fuel, you're still obliged to pay all the taxes levied on fuel. if you don't and get caught, it's jail time!!
and as we all know, tax evasion tends to carry long sentances
mythbusters proved it u can run stright up filtered veg oil from reasteraunts in a deisel engine
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/3/2008 10:43:27 AM
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oh and i doubt the government will do anything about gas prices...they make more on fuel than the "oil tycoons" do..
They are already talking about putting profit taxes back on the oil companies.... Taxes that George Bush canned. . . . .
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/3/2008 11:09:20 AM
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/3/2008 2:39:25 PM
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dang taylor wish i could have that audi lol or any car higher end wouldnt even have to be coated in silver
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/3/2008 4:10:26 PM
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lmao this is hilarious!
Lets see truckers stop delivering/driving.
Well they screwed the nation AND themselves.
Gas price's will rise due to # of gallons purchased might fall some.
Truckers lose more money which in turn make them miss payments on there trucks/homes
Fed ends up having to cut the rate again which in turn ruins the dollar even more which will raise the gas prices more.
Smooth!
btw... Bio-fuel is causing MORE problems to the environment then regular fuel so GG there.
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/3/2008 6:19:35 PM
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Yea but the idea with bio-fuel is that it cuts the dependency (or at least it tries to) on oil from out of country.
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/3/2008 6:25:05 PM
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ya know what would be better
Drilling for oil here in america
biofuel is the worst idea ever. Its now causing other consumables prices to rise cause corn feed is now way more than it used to be.
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/3/2008 6:35:24 PM
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WolfPack
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Haha good point. Or the gulf.
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RE: Truckers Strike? - 4/3/2008 6:37:30 PM
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I get a kick out of that arguement whenever it comes up. I'll say that i have no side in this, but here is a response to your opinion Jon. Here is a statement that is often used to back up that way of thinking. "Bread costs more cause corn is used for ethanol production and since farmers are growing more corn and less wheat, the cost of wheat and wheat products increases." Well, that may be true, but the increase in the cost of bread due to the production of ethanol is small as compared to the increase caused by rising fossil fuel costs which are much more volitile and being passed on to everyone in every market whether it is through increased garbage pickup/disposal fees, incoming goods, distribution, etc.
There are far to many sides and far too many influences on all of these goods to be able take any side seriously. When even the 'experts' change their stories far too often. I haven't seen a believable comprehensive study yet to support or refute the production and use of ethanol and certainly haven't seen anything to refute bio-diesel which is a lot easier to produce than ethanol and can be used in conventional diesel engines.
However, to say that "biofuel is the worst idea ever" seems a bit far fetched. When an engine is designed to use ethanol and take full advantage of it, efficiencies can exceed that of conventional fossil fuel based engines. However, that would take a major culture and industrial shift to get that to happen. At this point in time, the human race is hooked on fossil fuels like a junky is to crack.
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