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RE: Gas Prices! - 4/24/2008 7:52:51 PM
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94blueknight
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ya i also dont get y they r going to be dropping OBI emissions here. cuz if u think about it OBII cars should be getting better emissions than OBI and OBI should be checked more. but w/e i dont care about their thinking i just wont need to get emissions. the government and their ill-logical thinking lol especially since they think ethanol is the way to go  stupid gov
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RE: Gas Prices! - 4/24/2008 9:28:20 PM
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Some times it's not as easy of just "getting rid of their suv's" With the blazer..I'm down about as far as I can go size wise and still be able to do what I do...I've tried slumping a canoe on top of a kia...doesn't work so well...the only reason I'm bitching about gas prices and millage...is my truck that normaly gets 20-22mpg is only getting 17..so to me for now..it's a big deal...it's not like I'm driving an H3 because of the status symbol...Whatever...
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RE: Gas Prices! - 4/25/2008 1:44:06 AM
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drperry
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Not everyone can afford to just dump a vehicle for another at the drop of a hat, either 
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RE: Gas Prices! - 4/25/2008 8:13:59 AM
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*snicker* damn republicans...*snicker snort* I like how they just introduced a bill that will make auto's getting no less than 31mpg....who the heck is going to be able to buy one of those new cars????? Not me!! lets see.....no car payment...17mpg......$300 dollars a month car payment...31 mpg....yeah....still doesn't ease my wallet!!....I might have to put PLPD on the blaze and park it next year....get me a commuter car....double...or...just get me a little blue sparkely Harley....50mpg....yeah....nice...
I follow Politics a lot, I havent heard of this bill. I think you are probably thinking about the bill where the average of all NEW cars in the US by 2012(maybe longer cant recall off hand) have to be able to get 30mpg(or higher cant recall that figure either). So you will see a lot sub compacts from the big three so they can keep making pickups/SUVs/Performance cars. This wont affect everything on the road already.
Go ahead and vote Democrat, Ive heard some of them suggest a $1 increase in the National gas tax. Plus they will raise all your other taxes too. I dont know why anyone would like to vote for someone that thinks that is a good idea.
If you are complaining about gas prices get rid of your Blazer. It seems a lot of people complain but still drive big automobiles. Doesnt make sense to me.
Nothing to do with Democrat or Republican, speculators is the cause. They collect like $30 in their pocket per barrel of crude oil. Also on that note read something the other day in Suadi Arabia it costs them $1 to pump up a barrel of crude oil, this isnt including refining in into gas, but the point of the matter is im gonna start riding my bike.
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RE: Gas Prices! - 4/25/2008 8:18:44 AM
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i pay 3.50 agal.
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RE: Gas Prices! - 4/25/2008 9:01:01 AM
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$3.50 a gallon here in Texas. It doesn't matter how high it gets, I have to work, and I need gas to get there, so I will just have to deal with it. Our government does not care obviously since they are filthy rich and don't have to buy gas, so to hell with the rest of us as long as they get their profit from the prices being so high. They could care less if we all went broke and the country collapsed, because they will still be rich no matter what. It's all about greed and selfishness. The human race makes me sick........
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RE: Gas Prices! - 4/25/2008 9:07:16 AM
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$4.00 WOOT GO ME.
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RE: Gas Prices! - 4/25/2008 9:42:17 AM
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it's about $3.60 a gall here in indiana.
Hasn't anybody learned yet? that no matter which party you are talking about they all say "i'm going to drop taxes" but yet the national dept is i think around 4.6 trillion........$4,600,000,000,000 i think thats right and it is growing around a billion $ a day
so how can they drop taxes and keep up with the increasing dept? Just my two cents in the politicle conversation
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RE: Gas Prices! - 4/25/2008 10:43:27 AM
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rabbit0102030
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Gas prices, food prices, the so called "war" in Iraq (our occupation of Iraq)............all have their underlying cause........
I gotta jump on this national debt thing though, even though it is a bit off topic. The first thing you need to understand is that the Federal Reserve is a private corporation. The Federal Reserve is no more Federal than Federal Express. It is a fact that it is a “for profit” corporation.
Next, how did we get into a multi-trillion dollar debt? In 1913, we adopted the Federal Reserve system which essentially replaced traditional gold-backed currency and the fractional reserve system. Instead of having gold backing our money, we would use our ability to produce and profit to justify the new creation of money.
The process of the creation of money in our monetary system is somewhat complex, but at the end of the day, it results in the United States owing the Federal Reserve for the face value of money that was created. We create debt for almost all the new money that we create. As many of you know, when you borrow money, you must pay back the debt as well as interest for the period of time you are borrowing the money.
When a government does not use a gold standard, the creation of new money induces what we all have come to know as inflation. It is the reduction of the value of the money supply caused by the introduction of new money. Pre-Fed American banking experienced this due to fractional reserve banking systems furthering the credit extended on their gold reserves. We still experience the same inflation today, and logically so, the only difference being that now we pay interest to the Federal Reserve.
Now, here is the kicker. If a country’s monetary growth is based on this principle of borrowing and interest, how can it pay back interest on money borrowed when you would have to borrow more money to pay it? Flawed from the start. Then comes the interest, just .01% interest on almost 9 trillion dollars and you’ve got a big problem already. Balancing the budget doesn’t quite take on the same meaning when you get wise to the Federal Reserve and our national debt.
This might be an appealing package on the outside, but consider this: We have a Congress that spends money like it grows on trees, we have to pay interest on all the money that is borrowed by Congress and interest on this debt is paid to a small number of powerful and wealthy elite.
The fundamental problem, besides the financial burden of debt and interest, is that there comes a point where a debt can outweigh the ability to repay. At almost five trillion dollars, our national debt represents nearly 1/5 of America’s entire resources. Are we ready to pick a time zone and sell it to private investors to repay the national debt? Do we accept the consequence of national bankruptcy, complete financial collapse, when lenders abandon their US Bonds in favor of other, more stable investments? The Euro for example.
In my heated opinion, the national debt was manufacturered as a pre-text to the introduction of a new form of American currency. There is evidence of a North American Union plan, which I'm sure alot of you have heard about, but I think it’s going to be a difficult sell in America. In a condition of financial ruin or foreign hostility, the nation would happily accept a North American Union currency in favor of the daily declining dollar.
What’s too sick about this is that we could nearly wipe it all away by abolishing the Federal Reserve. This corrupt system not only introduces inflation, as we had with the gold standard, but also charges us interest on the face value of money our government allows them to create! We’re shelling out billions every year to private, wealthy elite that wield great power over the United States. We can’t run up debt forever without consequences, every idiot knows that.
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RE: Gas Prices! - 4/25/2008 10:53:36 AM
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So..we abolish the federal reserve, and then when a bank in Chicago sees a rush on withdrawals, drops below the required 10% of checkable deposits, goes to borrow from the next bank's reserves, but WAIT! That bank saw a rush on withdrawals as well! So, no one has the 10% required, which mean's a few more withdrawals and there IS NO MONEY. So they have to borrow from the Federal Reserve. But now the federal reserve is gone....so where does the money come from when I go to the bank and try to withdraw some $$?
The Federal Reserve is just the group that has the ability to lend money...no one else has the rources to do so, especially not a government, which is why it HAS to be privately held.
Better solution than getting rid of all our money...abolish the rediculous social security system.
Check out these numbers: Of the $938.7 billion in tax revenue the government took in last year, 337.9 billion went to social security and medicare. $75.1 billion went to the interest on the national debt. Why pay for old people to go to the bahama's when we're dropping 75 billion on interest alone?
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RE: Gas Prices! - 4/25/2008 11:32:35 AM
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rabbit0102030
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So..we abolish the federal reserve, and then when a bank in Chicago sees a rush on withdrawals, drops below the required 10% of checkable deposits, goes to borrow from the next bank's reserves, but WAIT! That bank saw a rush on withdrawals as well! So, no one has the 10% required, which mean's a few more withdrawals and there IS NO MONEY. So they have to borrow from the Federal Reserve. But now the federal reserve is gone....so where does the money come from when I go to the bank and try to withdraw some $$?
That is the exact point I'm getting at! There will be no money, the country will be financially collapsed when we abolish the Federal Reserve! That gives the Union plan the chance it needs to succeed! There would be no national debt, if there were no Federal Reserve. The country would be able to pay its debts off, but at the rate that we have to print money, and the rate that we are borrowing it, it is now a non-repayable debt. We are charged interest on top of interest, on top of interest. We can never pay it off, and eventually our country will not be able to borrow anymore. Your right social security is a big burden and part of the problem, but the main cause is that fact that our "Federal" Reserve is not Federal at all, it is a profit bank. As long as there is money to be made it will always be that way. I'm not saying to get rid of our money either, I'm saying this national debt was the way for the government to get rid of our money all along, and to aquire more land. A North American Union would not only change our money, but in the same way would open our borders in effect we would be combining 3 countries into one and eventually under one rule.
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RE: Gas Prices! - 4/25/2008 3:47:25 PM
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BLK85
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Some times it's not as easy of just "getting rid of their suv's" With the blazer..I'm down about as far as I can go size wise and still be able to do what I do...I've tried slumping a canoe on top of a kia...doesn't work so well...the only reason I'm bitching about gas prices and millage...is my truck that normaly gets 20-22mpg is only getting 17..so to me for now..it's a big deal...it's not like I'm driving an H3 because of the status symbol...Whatever...
Im just saying if gas prices are killing you finacially that bad you have to change your life style easy as that, theres no way around it.
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Nothing to do with Democrat or Republican, speculators is the cause. They collect like $30 in their pocket per barrel of crude oil. Also on that note read something the other day in Suadi Arabia it costs them $1 to pump up a barrel of crude oil, this isnt including refining in into gas, but the point of the matter is im gonna start riding my bike.
I know it has nothing to do with Democrate or Republician. Im just saying if the Democrats get control of the presidency too, then we are in trouble.
Gas prices keep going up even though the US's demand is going down. Some of the other countries that are getting really industrialized are causeing this, countries like China and India. Plus another cause of this is just like you said, speculators, or people playin the Futures market. Wish I could understand how that works.
What we need to do is drill for oil in the US. We have how many different resovors of oil on our own soil but we are still buying from the Middle East and other countries that hate us. I have looked into the latest one found in North Dakota, there are conservative estimates that this one has enough oil to supply us for like 50 years. I say we start drilling here and just up and leave from the entire Middle East, I am not a fan of doing this now though. If we leave and quit giving them money I dont see them as being a huge threat.
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RE: Gas Prices! - 4/25/2008 4:10:11 PM
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ANWR ANWR ANWR
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RE: Gas Prices! - 4/25/2008 10:30:28 PM
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Filled the boat today! 266 liters@ $1.30 = $345.80
Ya gotta pay to play.
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RE: Gas Prices! - 4/27/2008 9:46:05 AM
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I cant rember what it is here right now, but i can walk to work so its not really a big deal yet (ya u guys are gonna hate me for saying that) but i would rather drive lmao but before you guys hate me i might be moving. So that brings me to another point, are people gonna stop putting money into mods to save gas? probobly not lol
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RE: Gas Prices! - 4/27/2008 3:16:25 PM
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drperry
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With gas prices going up, why would you STOP modding for better gas mileage?
My next mod is another set of tires... A highway tire in the factory size, lol.
I want my 24 MPG Highway back!
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