RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy!
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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/26/2008 8:48:56 AM
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JediKnight2
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First, when the dollar bounces back things SHOULD get better....the other thing is that the speculators just need to go and get a life...they HAVE to be bought and paid for by the Oil companies to spread gloom and doom because I have NEVER heard one say anythign positive. They talk about instability in Iran,Venezuela, etc...those countries have NEVER been stable...they blame it on EVERYTHING and ANYTHING... Want to hear something funny...price went up today 8 cents from yesterday....last time I checked trading isn't going on today....
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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/26/2008 9:58:42 AM
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JediKnight2
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In the US we dont have a million social programs to pay for YET....
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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/26/2008 12:50:15 PM
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drperry
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ORIGINAL: drperry And don't take this the wrong way... But USA gas prices are cheap. (with the possible exceptions of Alaska and maybe Hawaii) Seriously. $4 a gallon would be a nice price drop. I've been paying over $4 a gallon for a year or so now. Granted, back then the Canadian dollar was like $0.85 US... Currently the Canadian dollar is $0.97 US Gas is costing me $1.34 per liter. 1.34 x 3.78 = $5.07 a gallon. ENJOY YOUR CHEAP GAS! Please? Ive said this before. What are your tax rates like there? Im sure everything is more expensive there since you have to pay for your socialized Healthcare and all the other goverment programs you have there. In the US we dont have a million social programs to pay for, imo we have to many but still. Isn't it like $0.60/gallon worth of taxes in NY? The bulk of our taxes comes right off our pay checks and food purchases.
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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/26/2008 9:10:57 PM
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thegr81
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HHHMMMM some people need to open there eye's about bush and do some homework before sticking up for him!!!! Bush's family and bin laden's family go way back so 9/11= bush's fault!! Let see here bush's family is an oil family so the price of gas going way up before he leaves office = bush's fault his dad did the same thing when he was president!!! Also another reason gas is so high is that bush refuses to use our own oil for our own country because its not HIS OIL, and therefore he wouldn't make any money off of it!! Bush did do one thing right and that is talk to iraq about producing more oil so the price per barrel will go down the only reason he did that is so that he wont get assassinated after leaving office, so now iraq is going into overload production making more oil so the price will decline but it will take almost a year to see the price start to fall!!! Just so everyone understands were I get my info remember I am ex-military I find stuff out the news doesn't know because of friends in high places that are still actively serving our country!!!! So again do some homework before sticking up for a lousy president that thinks of himself over his own country!!! Another thing just my two cents but I would be happier then hell if bill clinton was back in office life was good when he was in office!!!
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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/27/2008 12:15:28 AM
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Taymacjack
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ORIGINAL: SDimeBlazerlady but im still saying its alot of Greed... Maybe you should learn first why it is so high. Do you think Bush just said hey I want to raise the price of a barell of oil world wide? No. He/any president has little to no control over the price of oil on the world market. There are 3 major reasons why it is so high now. First the value of the US Dollar is dropping. Second World demand is high. Thrid, speculators in this country(Investors). Do you really think that prices will go down the minute you elect Obama into office? No i would rather just blame bush...its easier and requires less thought...
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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/27/2008 4:23:27 AM
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m00nwater
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Part of the problem for us Canucks, drperry, is because we send our own gas to be refined in the States instead of refining it ourselves. Tell me again how it makes sense to sell gas to the States and then buy it back at a higher cost. It's cheaper to buy gas here in Ontario than it is in Alberta, where the oil comes from in the first place?! Not only do they make money on the sale, they double up their earnings when they sell it back to us with all the taxes imposed. A reason why oil is so expensive right now is not because demand by consumers is so high, because realistically the supply is not running out as experts like to claim is the case, it is demand by people wanting a piece of the pie. Investors are taking their money out of the US dollar and putting it into something more profitable right now...oil. The more people wanting to invest, the higher the cost. It has nothing to do with supplies being depleted. And with everyone on the "go green" bandwagon these days, it's another farce the oil companies can use to jack up prices.
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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/27/2008 9:57:43 AM
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JediKnight2
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LOL...RFLMAO....Yeah..BUSH is the only family involved in politics that are involved in Oil....yup..he's the only one...LOL...and the zombie sheeple of America go..>BAAAHHHhAAAhhhhhh....it's easier for the government to control you if you just lay down and take it... Down the road...100 years from now..history will show that we all gave up freedom FREELY...."It was EASY" the new government will say. I might be mistaken...but I don't think this country has seen..ONE DROP of Iraq oil. As far as Bin Laden...Clinton boy had MANY MANY chances to take him out but since he was a pansy he didn't... I DREAD what may come in the near future...my middle class status just might become poor from having to PAY for all of the socialized programs that could come into play... Let me guess...you beleive steel doesn't melt or become bendable, right? I mean...Rosie said so.
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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/27/2008 11:54:48 AM
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garry2000blazer
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Last I heard, Bush has wanted to open up Anwar some Gulf of Mexico for drilling for years, but the congress (and I think Florida legislature regarding the gulf) won't let him.
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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/27/2008 12:01:53 PM
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FFJustin99Chevy
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Kerander is one of the few people on here who seems to actually know what is going on. It's the inflation which devaluated our U.S. dollar and big oil companies bidding up barrels of oil. Even the big companies are taking a hit but since they're so large, they can still turn a profit. Unfortunately, demand is larger than supply which is driving price up at the start of the chain......OIL COMPANIES! Then, as we get further down the chain to gasoline refiners and suppliers and finally fueling stations, everyone has their markup to turn a profit. In the end, the "demanders" are the ones to deal with everyone else's markups for profit. Yes, Bush was involved in the Oil Business but you can't go blaming something which is a worldwide phenomenon on one man. Just my two cents.....
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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/27/2008 12:48:40 PM
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drperry
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ORIGINAL: m00nwater Part of the problem for us Canucks, drperry, is because we send our own gas to be refined in the States instead of refining it ourselves. Tell me again how it makes sense to sell gas to the States and then buy it back at a higher cost. It's cheaper to buy gas here in Ontario than it is in Alberta, where the oil comes from in the first place?! Not only do they make money on the sale, they double up their earnings when they sell it back to us with all the taxes imposed. A reason why oil is so expensive right now is not because demand by consumers is so high, because realistically the supply is not running out as experts like to claim is the case, it is demand by people wanting a piece of the pie. Investors are taking their money out of the US dollar and putting it into something more profitable right now...oil. The more people wanting to invest, the higher the cost. It has nothing to do with supplies being depleted. And with everyone on the "go green" bandwagon these days, it's another farce the oil companies can use to jack up prices. Well, they're building refineries over here now, I think... So that will help... Hopefully. If we still had Ralph Klien as our premier, he'd have used AB's surplus (the only province NOT in debt, I believe) and bought a lot of the oil rigs that US companies are leaving behind
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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/27/2008 1:04:05 PM
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Taymacjack
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ORIGINAL: JediKnight2 LOL...RFLMAO....Yeah..BUSH is the only family involved in politics that are involved in Oil....yup..he's the only one...LOL...and the zombie sheeple of America go..>BAAAHHHhAAAhhhhhh....it's easier for the government to control you if you just lay down and take it... Down the road...100 years from now..history will show that we all gave up freedom FREELY...."It was EASY" the new government will say. I might be mistaken...but I don't think this country has seen..ONE DROP of Iraq oil. As far as Bin Laden...Clinton boy had MANY MANY chances to take him out but since he was a pansy he didn't... I DREAD what may come in the near future...my middle class status just might become poor from having to PAY for all of the socialized programs that could come into play... Let me guess...you beleive steel doesn't melt or become bendable, right? I mean...Rosie said so. Well i did all the calculations on my speak n say and doubled up the tin foil in my hat. Results are conclusive. Bush did it...
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