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OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/5/2008 6:01:45 PM   
SDimeBlazerlady


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A barrel of oil is now $119.97
When Bush just got in office Jan.01 it was only $32.97
This is getting way out of hand here...Not sure if it can ever be fixed but WOW!


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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/5/2008 7:42:50 PM   
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Domestic reserves.  Vote non-hippie.

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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/5/2008 7:51:06 PM   
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it's not bush's falt. its the world we live in. like bread use to be a $.25 but now it is like $4. greedy. its just every one. not just one person its just we all feel it the most in gas because we had to make cars that get 10 milse to the gallion and work so far away from our homes.  my 2 cents

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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/5/2008 9:29:06 PM   
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I agree that it is not all President Bush's fault. It is the world we live in, things have changed in the almost 8 years he has been president.

Also I like how the person who drives an economy car now, instead of a Blazer, is complaining about the gas prices. I have gone about 150miles on 3/4 of a tank which means i am averaging about 12 mpgs right now. That will change when i start driving longer distances and not in the hills all the time, but I am not complaining, mearly stating an observation of my own.

Oh and dang $4 for bread thats expensive, even for me being in the middle of nowhere bread is only like $1.30 for a loaf of white bread.


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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/5/2008 9:47:29 PM   
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Did i step on some toes on this one?? I do have a Honda but i still pay bout $40 to fill it,Yes its much cheaper then $50 to $100 to fill up the Blazer n Trucks, but i do plan to get a fun/weekend car i been looking at V8's so i then will have to fill 2 tanks. but im still saying its alot of Greed...

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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/5/2008 11:19:35 PM   
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gas prices-bushes fault
inflation-bushes fault
war-bushes fault
social securiy-bushes fault
9/11-bushes fault
hindenburg-bushes fault
titanic-bushes fault
jfk assassination-bushes fault
global warming-bushes fault
rick rolling-bushes fault


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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/6/2008 10:33:06 AM   
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Yeah, and before he was the president and even before he was the govenor of Texas he was in oil.  Coincidence?????   Hhhmmmm

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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/6/2008 10:58:41 AM   
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hmmm political thread....

Bush had his hands in American petroleum. OPEC is causing the gas crunch.

< Message edited by EuroGoldLS -- 5/6/2008 11:13:51 AM >


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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/6/2008 9:11:42 PM   
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Hmmm Bush-bashing, are we? I have a funny youtube for you all. I'm not taking a political stance here....just sharing something funny I saw.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4DykmZz_YA

Also SDime I agree with you...I drive a toyota pickup every day and I'm still feeling it at the pump...probably doesn't help I commute close to 70 miles a day though.

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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/7/2008 3:12:00 PM   
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Heck it cost me $12 to fill up my motorcycle yesterday, & it had a little over a 1/4 of a tank left. 

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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/7/2008 3:14:35 PM   
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I was super excited at the pump today...filled up the blazer for the first tank since doing a seafoam upper intake clean, a double dose of fuel system cleaner, and a new belt (don't know if that made a difference though ), and I filled up at my usual 200 mi mark, and IT ONLY TOOK 13 GALLONS.  That's just under 15 mpg!!!!!!!


but seriously, vote non-hippie.


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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/7/2008 7:10:13 PM   
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I think the biggest reason oil is now $120 dollars a barrel and gas is near $4 is that the dollar's value has dropped 39 to 50%, depending on whose figures you believe.  It takes a lot more of those 61 or 50 cent dollars to buy a barrel of oil.  The oil producing nations know the value of our money and are not dumb enough to take 61 cents when they got a dollar before. 

Another reason is there are more people bidding on the oil, China and India primarily.

If you had $1,000,000 in the bank when Bush took office, it will now buy only 610,000 or 500,000 worth of goods.  Bush lowered taxes, but raised spending to record deficit levels
(9 trillion and counting).  Such action causes the value of money to decrease.  Taxation is not the only way politicans can steal your money. 

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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/8/2008 4:28:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WLB

I think the biggest reason oil is now $120 dollars a barrel and gas is near $4 is that the dollar's value has dropped 39 to 50%, depending on whose figures you believe.  It takes a lot more of those 61 or 50 cent dollars to buy a barrel of oil.  The oil producing nations know the value of our money and are not dumb enough to take 61 cents when they got a dollar before. 

Another reason is there are more people bidding on the oil, China and India primarily.

If you had $1,000,000 in the bank when Bush took office, it will now buy only 610,000 or 500,000 worth of goods.  Bush lowered taxes, but raised spending to record deficit levels
(9 trillion and counting).  Such action causes the value of money to decrease.  Taxation is not the only way politicans can steal your money. 


all good points...

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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/25/2008 2:19:56 AM   
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I follow politics VERY closely, and my only recommendation is to do some careful studying before speculating for or against- pretty good to do in any case, actually! That said:

2 primary causes of high oil prices now, are just the same as they were during the 70's gas crunch:

dollar devaluation

speculation

As for the causes of those things, basically the same as well; history just repeating itself because some people never learn. I'll just say that Nixon and Bush have as much in common as Carter and Obama. Funny how that works out, huh? See some other parallels? Iran problems...? Poorly executed and subsequently unpopular war...? Smiley happy "Change" candidate coming on the heels...

And I'll finally say that things can definitely get alot worse before this clears up. Hopefully it won't come to the interest and inflation crisis as it did before, but it still may. Let's cross our fingers.

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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/25/2008 8:54:04 AM   
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Yeah, and before he was the president and even before he was the govenor of Texas he was in oil.  Coincidence?????   Hhhmmmm


LOL..you think he is the ONLY political figure wrapped up in oil...EVERY ONE OF THEM are bought and paid for by pharmaceuticals, insurance or oil.  Pick your pain.

Bread is expensive because oil is up...gas prices affect EVERYTHING in the end down to a slice of cheese.

I am not for governement control over business....but I am on the fence in thinking that oil companies need oversight...LOTS OF IT because they are lying about prices.....I understand when prices go up when a pipeline goes down..however the price NEVER adjust back down when the line comes back online...all twisted piles of lies.

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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/25/2008 2:37:31 PM   
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I can relate about how frustrating it is, however alot of the problem is not the integrity of politicians.. and I know how controversial that may sound, but they are just human.

I attribute the problem primarily in the structure of our government, esspecially campaign finance, which god bless him, John McCain (and Russ Feingold, among others, mostly dems though) championed for years, but now seems to be backpeddling/doubletalking on somewhat, which is not so good. I think he feels like he doesn't want to get screwed again like in 2000, and look what's happening to the guy - he signed an agreement with Obama to use equal public campaign funds if they were both the nominees, and now Obama is backing out because he's rolling in cash (big "change" there, btw, LOL). You never know, though, McCain could hammer Obama on this later and would be *completely* justified and right to do so. Well...

Besides that I believe there are some fundamental flaws in our Constitution, but this gets into some pretty nuanced areas of constitutional law and philosophy.

It's tough because there are so many things to fix and people really need time to adjust to changes, even if they are for the better. And of course people are unsure if things will work or not - it reminds me so much of surgery. But you can't do surgery with a sledgehammer (BFH) if you know what I mean. lol.

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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/25/2008 5:09:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SDimeBlazerlady

but im still saying its alot of Greed...

Maybe you should learn first why it is so high.  Do you think Bush just said hey I want to raise the price of a barell of oil world wide?  No.  He/any president has little to no control over the price of oil on the world market. 

There are 3 major reasons why it is so high now.  First the value of the US Dollar is dropping.  Second World demand is high.  Thrid, speculators in this country(Investors). 

Do you really think that prices will go down the minute you elect Obama into office? 



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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/25/2008 6:26:23 PM   
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I just filled up, 18.34 gallons = $75

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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/25/2008 6:44:08 PM   
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when president hoover got into presidency he wasn't expecting black tuesday, no one was, but they blamed him. Why cause he's suppose to be the one who fixes everything right? People need someone to blame it's like we have to have a skapegoat
Now President bush has his problems and i see them but, give him a little credit.

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RE: OMG! Can i say Greedy! - 5/26/2008 2:18:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Verno

I just filled up, 18.34 gallons = $75



.... You have an 18.7 gallon tank. Sucking fumes, my friend, sucking fumes.


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And don't take this the wrong way... But USA gas prices are cheap. (with the possible exceptions of Alaska and maybe Hawaii)

Seriously.

$4 a gallon would be a nice price drop.

I've been paying over $4 a gallon for a year or so now.

Granted, back then the Canadian dollar was like $0.85 US...
Currently the Canadian dollar is $0.97 US
Gas is costing me $1.34 per liter.
1.34 x 3.78 = $5.07 a gallon.
ENJOY YOUR CHEAP GAS!

Please?

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