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4.2 Vortec swap - 2/24/2006 6:08:31 AM   
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My stock 4.3 is gettin some miles on it. So instead of the normal rebuild, i was thinkin about gettin a lil exotic. Just wondering if you guys had any Pros and Cons for stuffin a vortec 4200 I6 instead of the 4.3 rebuild. The I6 is rated at 270hp and 275lb-ft of torque from the factory. The only real concerns i have are the size of the engine, the possibility of the cylinder sleeves coming loose (as some have been reported of doing), and mounting differences. Any comments or suggestions are welcome. My fantasy would be to stick the new supercharged caddy 4.4L (http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/articles/cadillac/0504em_cady/) in my LT... : D

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RE: 4.2 Vortec swap - 2/24/2006 6:17:59 AM   
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I would think that the Caddy v8 would be easier (not necessarily cheaper for the engine anyway) than the I6. The problem with the I6 is that it is going to be close to twice the length of the v6 you've got in there. With a v8, you're only gaining a couple of inches, but with I6, its probably closer to a foot! Another thing going against the caddy motor is the width of it. The DOHC N* engine is a WIDE engine. I don't think that you will have problems, but the areas to be concerned with are the HVAC housing and AC filter/dryer and the brake master cylinder. Not to mention the bolt pattern, motor mounts, etc.

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RE: 4.2 Vortec swap - 2/24/2006 10:49:57 AM   
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Yea, i found some info in a similar post on an S-10 forum. Seems someone has tried it before and the 4.2 wouldnt fit ( http://www.s10forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81769 ,last post). Too bad really,it would definatly be a badass motor in a blazer: ).

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RE: 4.2 Vortec swap - 3/7/2006 3:49:43 PM   
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is that caddy the northsatr engine if it is those babys rock my gpa has gone through 3 different caddy devilles wit them in there. there powerfull and hold up well. never any trouble. on the other hand my dad had a 2000 deville DTS fully loaded when it first came out and that was honestly almost as fast as his bmw 745i with a 4.4 in it. the beamer had a 6 speed in it though and was a little bit more race like. but if u supercharged that baby WATCHOUT!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: 4.2 Vortec swap - 3/7/2006 5:23:32 PM   
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Yes, he is speaking of the new STS-V supercharged northstar engine. The Northstar's as a whole have issues that I won't get into unless someone wants/needs to know. Yes they are remarkable engines with TONS of power and make for a very fun car, but given the choice between a Bonneville GXP and my Bonneville SSEi, I'd rather have my trusty L67 3800 Series II supercharged over the 4.6L Northstar any day!

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RE: 4.2 Vortec swap - 3/7/2006 6:45:20 PM   
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Wait until you have a leaky upper intake manifold Kyle. I have to get a new one.

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RE: 4.2 Vortec swap - 3/7/2006 6:55:19 PM   
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The L67s don't have that exact problem. Mine has leaked, but it is a relatively easy fix it was barely weeping out along a bolt for the lower intake manifold. The L36 in your Impala is a different story. Those tend to leak internally. The engine block is about the only thing that the L36 and the L67 have in common.

The northstars have headgasket trouble and cylinder liner seal trouble. Both of which are major $$$ to fix.

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RE: 4.2 Vortec swap - 3/7/2006 7:03:09 PM   
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Did a pressure test when cold and it leaked near the t body. New updated upper intake on its way.

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