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Sub and amp combo - 7/8/2008 12:52:51 AM

Spartan66

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Ok so I have alittle under a grand to put together a quality sound system. I am looking a good amp and sub combo. I want two 12in subs and i still need to buy the box and wires etc. What do you guys suggest?

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RE: Sub and amp combo - 7/8/2008 6:12:55 AM

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Ok so im gonna get two 12in JBLs from my friend who works at Cartoys that sit at 250W RMS each. So what size two channel amp should i get to plug them in to? 500W amp?

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RE: Sub and amp combo - 7/8/2008 11:00:10 AM

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all depends what impedence they will be wired at. Before you jump the gun at cartoys, you need to define to us "quality". you mean loud and boomy or accurate reproduction of the bass notes.

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RE: Sub and amp combo - 7/8/2008 3:54:42 PM

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Well since i listen to country and southern rock, i suppose accurate reproduction would be nice over loud and boomy. What do you suggest in that department? best bang for the buck. Like i said i have roughly a thousand dollar budget, but i need to buy the box and wires etc.

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RE: Sub and amp combo - 7/8/2008 5:44:41 PM

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Im glad you answer that correctly :) The sub in the link below is the absolute best bang for the buck and has AMAZING SQ. They sound best in a very small (0.8ft^3) enclosure and require a fair amount of power. I would recommend starting with just 1 sub for now and see how you like it. These subs are very well known in the sound quality world. IF you do decide to stick with 2 subs, the only problem you may encounter is finding a quality amp that produces 1400RMS @ 2ohm and staying within your budget.

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=295-466

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RE: Sub and amp combo - 7/8/2008 7:15:10 PM

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haha yeah... i had some Hillbilly Deluxe cranked up and some a-hole in a beat up honda pulled up next to me with his bass louder than his music... i had to roll up my window AND turn the music up full blast.... But that sub looks amazing, especially for that price! I think one should work just fine lol thanks!

Now with the sub out of the way what amp do you suggest I use to compliment this sub?

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RE: Sub and amp combo - 7/8/2008 9:06:31 PM

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alpine pdx 1.600

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RE: Sub and amp combo - 7/9/2008 8:35:32 PM

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Try and find an older PPI amp. I have a PPI 2360 which is rated at 360 watts continuous (underrated) with this Kicker combo https://www2.visions.ca/catalogue/category/Details.aspx?categoryId=3196&productId=866&menuId=%27%27&parentId1=%27%27&parentId2=%27%27&parentId3=%27%27&menuLevel=%27%27, and it pounds pretty hard. The box was made for these subs, so theres no distortion and you get some pretty good SPL. Alpine also gives you good bang for the buck. I''ve also been happy with JL, Rockford, Infinity makes descent subs as well. As far as wiring kits, I picked up an 8 gauge stinger wiring kit for 100 bucks and it came with everything I needed and then some. Best of luck! Post what you get with pics of your install.

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RE: Sub and amp combo - 7/9/2008 8:44:43 PM

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great suggestion for the PPI. Unfortunately the newer kicker stuff is only good for kicking. They are HORRIBLE for sound quality which is what the OP is after. JL is also very nice but much too expensive for what you get. Infinity is bottom of the barrel equipment. The higher end rockford amps are nice, everything else is entry level gear. The Dayton HO I linked to in my first post is your absolute best bang for the buck for sound quality hands down. ;)

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RE: Sub and amp combo - 7/9/2008 9:07:29 PM

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Those new Alpine PDX amps are SWEET lookin............

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RE: Sub and amp combo - 7/9/2008 10:30:22 PM

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ok thanks guys i will see if i cant get everything to swing my way with this equipment. Two final questions. 1. Would i need a specific size wire/wire kit to install this? 2. This sounds like alot of power, would I need to get like a bigger alternator or something along those lines?

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RE: Sub and amp combo - 7/9/2008 11:37:35 PM

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No, you should be ok. If your pushing more then 800 watts, it''s a good idea to get a cap especially if your lights dim as you turn up the volume. Consult a professional about how to properly install/charge a cap if you plan on getting one. And be sure to get the proper gauge wire. If you get a brand new amp, the manual should have a diagram on what gauge for what wattage to use. If not then check this site out. http://www.cardiscountstereos.com/WireGuide.asp Good luck and if you don''t know, ask, because there are alot of mistakes that you can make in car audio.

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RE: Sub and amp combo - 7/10/2008 4:41:53 AM

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caps are a bandaid for a bullet wound. If you know anything about electronics and do the math, you will see that in most cases, a cap is actually hurting your charging system more than it is helping. If your headlights are dimming and you add a cap, that places more of a strain on your battery which in turn strains your alternator even more.

If you never plan on adding another amp to your truck, just get a high quality 8ga wire kit. If you do plan on adding another amp to your truck, a high quality 4ga kit will work. Id recommend a kit from JL, knuconcepts, scosche, or kicker. Do NOT get your kit from walmart. Those wiring kits are actually smaller than what they really say they are.

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RE: Sub and amp combo - 7/10/2008 7:21:31 AM

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i just put a 200 watt vr3 amp a 10 inch jensen sub and a explode deck im my 99 2 dr blazer and it sounds great!

I didnt want any rattle, but i did want to hear the bass in my music and thats what i got. i spent no more that 100 bucks for my whole system i bought the amp thats was used for 2 days for 40$ the sub and box for 30 and the deck was free i had the wiring. The other interior speakers are stock but that is a little more of a project.

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RE: Sub and amp combo - 7/10/2008 12:05:15 PM

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Yeah, i went the cheap route in my camaro and it was loud boomy annoying even at a moderate volume. I had a JBL 12in, JBL amp and a pioneer deck with a rockford fosgate 8awg wiring kit. Im looking for better sound quality this go around.

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