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New to me! 1974 K5 Blazer!! - 9/20/2008 6:56:58 PM   
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Well, it is in my driveway now!  Time to start taking things apart and replacing the rust...  It will likely be slow going, but having it in at my house will make it a little easier to work on than my Chevelle. 

On the trailer getting fuel:


Back home:







I think I finally realized what was holding me back on my Chevelle.  I do not want there to be any imperfections in the sheetmetal on the Chevelle.  So much so that I end up scrapping patch panels and second guessing my work.  I am just not good enough at metalworking yet to do what I want to do with it. 

The Blazer is different.  I want it to be done right and done well, but it does not have to be absolutely perfect.  With the availability of cheap patch panels for the Blazer (most around $20 for a partial patch), and the fact that a lot of the non-exterior panels are flat steel, the Blazer will be easier to "cut my teeth on".

Anyway, wish me luck!


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RE: New to me! 1974 K5 Blazer!! - 9/20/2008 7:01:40 PM   
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You didn`t mention the roll cage.  Is it welded to the frame?  You got a free Hi-Lift with it!!!

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RE: New to me! 1974 K5 Blazer!! - 9/20/2008 7:14:51 PM   
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Roll cage is standard (fiberglass top and all).  The jack looks like it has never been used and I am not sure if it was original...

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RE: New to me! 1974 K5 Blazer!! - 9/20/2008 8:46:15 PM   
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Looks like another great project. Hope all goes well with it! So what are your plans for this one Kyle? A restoration or like a resto-mod?

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RE: New to me! 1974 K5 Blazer!! - 9/21/2008 3:44:43 AM   
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How much did that beauty set you back?

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RE: New to me! 1974 K5 Blazer!! - 9/21/2008 7:27:48 AM   
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Congrats It would be kind of mind blowing to see that thing with a four banger swapped in for fuel efficiency.

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RE: New to me! 1974 K5 Blazer!! - 9/22/2008 6:52:18 AM   
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Tried to respond to this last night, but seems the site is back to its crappy ways. 

Anyway, I will be removing the interior this week to see how much work I have in front of me!


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RE: New to me! 1974 K5 Blazer!! - 9/24/2008 5:08:38 AM   
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Well, Monday night I got the whole back end stripped down and cleaned up as best I could with a vacuum.  Someone decided to cut a hole in the bed to swap out the sending unit in the tank so I will need to get a patch panel for that (junkyard).  I also got the passenger seat out and floor stripped down.  The seats were not original and there are quite a few extra holes in the floor that I will need to weld up before I am all said and done, but all in all it is quite clean.  Surface rust is all that is there.

Instead of putting carpet down inside, I think I am just going to throw down some bed liner on both sides of the floor (inside and underside) and call it a day.  That way I will not have to do anything but prime and cover with bed liner!

I was able to partially identify the motor as well.  
Casting code: 3970010 > 1969-1979 350CID V8 2 or 4 bolt, car, truck, vette
Stamping code: V0715CMB > V- Flint (engine), 07- July, 15- 15th day, CMB- 350, 4brl, 155HP/250lbft, F, LM1, Nova/Camaro
VIN code: 15N653303 > 1- Chevrolet, 5- 1975, N- Norwood, 653303- production sequence of vehicle VIN

Since it is a car engine, I am not sure if it will be a 4-bolt main.  I may just build up my other engine and drop it in, then do something else with this one...  Not sure yet.

Other bad news is that none of the seats are original.  The back seat looks to have come from another Blazer so that is good, but the front seats are from something different entirely.  Here are some pics of the progress from Monday night:



Last night I did a carb cleaning and general tune up.  I did not mess with the plugs or wires, but I adjusted the timing and carb jets so it was running better.  Started it this morning (38*F outside) and it sat up on the high idle for a few seconds.  Tweaked the throttle and it dropped down to normal idle and stayed.

The carb is a Rochester QuadraJet  with 7044206 and L3 (c) FA on the side.  Comes back as a 1974 Federal Emissions Chevy Automatic transmission carb.

Now I need to get an HEI distributor for this thing.  I will not mess around with points.  For the time being, I will probably just steal the distributor from my Chevelle.

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RE: New to me! 1974 K5 Blazer!! - 9/24/2008 7:33:10 AM   
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quote:

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I was able to partially identify the motor as well.  
Casting code: 3970010 > 1969-1979 350CID V8 2 or 4 bolt, car, truck, vette
Stamping code: V0715CMB > V- Flint (engine), 07- July, 15- 15th day, CMB- 350, 4brl, 155HP/250lbft, F, LM1, Nova/Camaro
VIN code: 15N653303 > 1- Chevrolet, 5- 1975, N- Norwood, 653303- production sequence of vehicle VIN

Whoa, a 350 rated 155hp w/ 250lbft of torque! Engines sure have moved on from 30 years ago, huh? Might as well put a 4.3L in it!

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RE: New to me! 1974 K5 Blazer!! - 9/24/2008 7:37:37 AM   
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What you have to realize is that was not gross crank HP after 1972.  This motor was actually rated at 185HP, but when tested with all the accessories, exhaust system, etc.  The transition happened in 1972 where the industry went from SAE Gross to SAE Net measurement.  General rule from a few articles I have found was that SAE Net was ~80% of SAE Gross which would put this engine in the 190HP range which lines up with the minimum HP figures I found for the block casting code.

Besides, it is not that right now, nor will it ever be again!  And there is NO WAY that a 4.3L is finding its way between the frame rails of this truck!!  LOL

Here is a quote I found about the LM1 motor in the 1974 Camaro:
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California equipped Camaros came with a special "LM-1" 350 rated at 160 hp

It looks like this was the same motor carried over into 1975 after they dropped the Z28 trim level (and motors), being the highest performance motor you could purchase in the Camaro!

Here is another quote about HP levels in the mid 1970s:
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power ratings were now net as opposed to the prior gross ratings. Net power ratings were taken from the engine crankshaft as before, but now all accessories had to be attached and operating, and all emissions equipment and a full production exhaust system had to be in place. These power-robbing additions — along with stringent new emissions laws — were instrumental in creating the vastly smaller power figures found in subsequent cars


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RE: New to me! 1974 K5 Blazer!! - 9/24/2008 8:59:23 AM   
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Yeah, I discovered the 80% rule awhile back. It puts some of the old muscle cars we drove back in the late ''60s and early ''70s into perspective for today. Even going by Net HP, the smog certs from the mid ''70s onward really put the hurt on power up until just a few years back when techno started catching up.

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RE: New to me! 1974 K5 Blazer!! - 9/25/2008 12:23:51 AM   
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Congrats on the "new" truck Kyle.
The original jack was a crank style stored on the left inner fender under the hood.

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RE: New to me! 1974 K5 Blazer!! - 9/25/2008 4:42:31 AM   
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Thanks Rob!  I have already done quite a bit of work on it, mainly stripping things down getting ready for some sheetmetal. 

I knew the jack was not the factory jack, but it looks as though it was installed (and never used since) way back when.  Some lithium grease and WD40 and it looks new again and works great!

Rob, do you know if the roll bar was a factory option?  Earlier in this thread I meant to say that it looked factory, not necessarily that it was standard.  This truck has 3 point seat belts in the front which I am not sure if they came like that from the factory...  The only seat belts that match the SPI label are the outer ones in the back which are charcoal gray.  The rest are all black.



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RE: New to me! 1974 K5 Blazer!! - 9/25/2008 3:41:14 PM   
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Nice to see an old Blazer being saved instead of it biodegrading or being recycled into 15 Kias.  Congratulations, nice!

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RE: New to me! 1974 K5 Blazer!! - 9/26/2008 10:45:37 PM   
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I''m not aware of a factory roll bar. Factory seat belts were simple lap belts.

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RE: New to me! 1974 K5 Blazer!! - 9/27/2008 11:09:35 AM   
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Only place that gave me the impression that the roll bar could have been factory was THIS.
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New was the factory padded roll bar


And I have found references to the "family" roll bar.  The picture below is from a 1973 dealer brochure.  Does not mean that these were factory equipped, but they were available when new.  The folks over at ColoradoK5 report that there were some of the 1st gens with factory rollbars that had the option shown on the SPI label in the glovebox.  The same things were offered up through 1975 from what I have found.




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RE: New to me! 1974 K5 Blazer!! - 9/29/2008 7:10:14 PM   
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A little update...

Earlier last week I had found an eBay auction with original 1976 K5 Blazer front seats, complete.  The seats looked decent and had the complete bases which is more than I can say for the seats that came with my Blazer.  More on that on the ‘Interior’ page.  I purchased the seats for $10 and $90 delivery charge.  We had agreed to a $1/mile (one-way) charge and that I would meet the seller just south of Binghamton, NY to pick up the parts.

After talking with seller, I found that he also had a pair of doors, and a set of later model chrome mirrors.  For an extra $100, I purchased these parts as well.



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RE: New to me! 1974 K5 Blazer!! - 10/14/2008 11:53:54 AM   
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Kyle,

I was just reading your posts. I''m new to this forumn and you have already made a couple of responses to my posts about my 74 K5, thanks. Your Blazer looks like it is going to be a great project! I look forward to reading all your updates. What is your goal with it anyways? Just a restoration or are you planning on making it into a wheeler?

Thanks,
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RE: New to me! 1974 K5 Blazer!! - 10/14/2008 11:57:08 AM   
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My main focus right now is just building my competencies with metal and body work.  If I keep it after I am done with the work that it needs, then I will have to evaluate what to do with it then.  It already has a 3" BL and 33x12.5 BFGoodrich M/T TA tires on it, but those are leaving!  Damn things are too loud on the road.

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RE: New to me! 1974 K5 Blazer!! - 10/14/2008 10:44:17 PM   
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Nice truck. 

Funny about HP back in those days.

In high school, I had a ''76 camaro with a 305 V8.  It was factory rated at 140HP.

Now I own a 2006 Impala with a 3.5 liter V6.  It is rated at 211HP and could take that old camaro easily.


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