RE: WHO'S HAD GOOD LUCK WITH DEX-COOL
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RE: WHO'S HAD GOOD LUCK WITH DEX-COOL - 4/26/2006 9:04:44 AM
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Hanr3
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I have been watching.
Swart has been doing a fine job and seems to need some support.
I have owned numerous vehicles with and without Dex-Cool. I have never had a problem with it. In fact my '00 with 114,000 miles is 6 years old and I have never flushed my radiator. It still has the original Dex-Cool in it. In fact I haven't serviced anything in the cooling system as of yet. Except topping off the overflow tank as needed during oil changes. I check and top off all my fluids during oil changes.
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RE: WHO'S HAD GOOD LUCK WITH DEX-COOL - 4/27/2006 1:08:52 PM
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swartlkk
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Hmm... This thread has gotten slow...
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RE: WHO'S HAD GOOD LUCK WITH DEX-COOL - 4/28/2006 10:57:35 AM
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I gave my blazer a good cleaning under the hood yesterday and I didnt know that it has dexcool in it. As I said I've never had issues with it... but when I get a radiator servicing, I dont know if I should put the same thing back in with all the issues you guys have raised....
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RE: WHO'S HAD GOOD LUCK WITH DEX-COOL - 4/28/2006 11:00:58 AM
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swartlkk
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If you are worried, go with Prestone's All Makes / All Models Antifreeze.
Also, when servicing a cooling system, I would recommend a new thermostat and a new radiator cap. For the price of them, it is cheap insurance.
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RE: WHO'S HAD GOOD LUCK WITH DEX-COOL - 4/28/2006 1:22:41 PM
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5 yrs/150,000 miles ONLY if DexCool is used in the system! That does not negate the need for you to maintain your coolant system i.e. check levels, top it off, flush if necessary.
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RE: WHO'S HAD GOOD LUCK WITH DEX-COOL - 4/28/2006 3:20:32 PM
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5 yrs/150,000 miles ONLY if DexCool is used in the system! That does not negate the need for you to maintain your coolant system i.e. check levels, top it off, flush if necessary.
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Also, when servicing a cooling system, I would recommend a new thermostat and a new radiator cap. For the price of them, it is cheap insurance.
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RE: WHO'S HAD GOOD LUCK WITH DEX-COOL - 5/4/2006 1:25:48 PM
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My personal feelings on the DEXCOOL issue is its a hit or miss. Ive had my 98 blazer from 2001 to now. I had no problems out of the motor/coolent regarding DEXCOOL. However in 2004 the motor blew and I purchased a used motor from another vehicle and ive had sooooo many problems with this GUNK. So how come i never had problems out of it before the newused motor?? Weve flushed the system soooo many times and have quit using DEXCOOL but my radiator looks EXACTLY like the ones in the pic now.
I HATE DEXCOOL!!!!!!!
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RE: WHO'S HAD GOOD LUCK WITH DEX-COOL - 7/9/2006 12:09:36 PM
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I read this thread a while ago and then had to come back to it after more overheating, leaking, corroding issues. You pro Death-Cool guys crack me up. Are you all GM techs? Because it seems to me that you are using the, "it's not our fault" excuse right out of the Mr. Goodwrench hand book. The warranty say's it's good for 5/150,000 right? Well even a non GM certified mechanic can tell you that if you own the vehicle for 2-3 years and you know it had orange/reddish coolant in it, that when you look at the overflow bottle to check the level, and it is orange/reddish color through the bottle, then all is well. Right? Well, even when the Dex-Cool breaks down and turns to mud, it still looks kind of orange/reddish. So why would the perfect customer that is doing his proper level checks be responsible for 2-3 year old coolant breaking down before it's time. You guys crack me up, "it's not our fault". No the fault lies with GM. Ford and Chrysler figured it out in the R+D phase, and they won't put that crap in their vehicles. I'm done venting now, I'm going to go shoot my Blazer now, I've had enough.
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RE: WHO'S HAD GOOD LUCK WITH DEX-COOL - 7/9/2006 10:53:21 PM
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hahahah!!!! sorry just had to laugh right there... shoot the blazer? is that like shooting the wounded horse!??!?!
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RE: WHO'S HAD GOOD LUCK WITH DEX-COOL - 7/10/2006 8:01:27 AM
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How many times do I have to say this. NO WHERE does it say that DEXCOOL is 'warrantied' to be used for 5years/150,000 miles. Show me in your owners manual or any official website/literature that states that Dexcool is warrantied at all. Its best case scenario service interval is 5years or 100,000 miles for the vehicles which first came equiped with it and 5years or 150,000 miles for later vehicles.
The recommended service intervals on most fluids is much shorter than the best case scenario service intervals simply due to different conditions a vehicle is used in. Drive in dusty conditions a lot, you have to change your air filter and oil more often. Tow a lot, you have to change your transmission fluid more often. Varying conditions alone can cause excessive stress on these things, shortening their life. If you ignored the level of your oil over 15,000 miles using Mobil 1 Extended Life Synthetic, would you sue Mobil 1 when you seized your engine due to lack of oil?
I just did a cooling system service on my Bravada last weekend. It's a 2000 Bravada with ~80k miles on it. NEVER has the cooling system been serviced in the life of the vehicle. NO sludge, NO buildup, NO problems of ANY kind. I guess I just have a fluke vehicle. Or is it that any vehicle with problems is a fluke vehicle (given the miniscule percentage of vehicles that actually have problems).
Please...
And no, I'm not an GM Tech. I just choose to take the proponent side of this discussion because of the number of people willing to blindly bash a product based solely on their opinion and little to no facts.
< Message edited by swartlkk -- 7/10/2006 8:05:43 AM >
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RE: WHO'S HAD GOOD LUCK WITH DEX-COOL - 7/10/2006 12:19:30 PM
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RE: WHO'S HAD GOOD LUCK WITH DEX-COOL - 7/10/2006 4:09:15 PM
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Babied or not, a simple failed gasket or radiator cap can cause this. Manufacturing defects do exist. But no, you blame it on the coolant. You, ONE in HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of owners of dexcool equiped vehicles. I love it...
*EDIT* - let me clarify that last sentance. I don't love the fact that some of you are having troubles, I love how insignificant (statistically speaking) your troubles are.
The simple truth of the matter is that something as simple as a defective 'out of the box' radiator cap can cause the sludge problem due to the allowance of air to enter the system. Air that should not be there. Can happen to new or old vehicles. The fact that such a low occurance has been noted (less than one tenth of a percent of the total number of dexcool equiped vehicles) goes along with the manufacturing defect train of thought. Sucks that you got dinged by so many of them, but the facts don't lie. Change to whatever you like. Crap happens and that's life.
Now your wife's car is covered under a warranty and by all rights, should be fixed completely under the terms of the warranty. And you get to drive around in a nice loaner for the week (or whatever).
< Message edited by swartlkk -- 7/10/2006 4:22:29 PM >
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RE: WHO'S HAD GOOD LUCK WITH DEX-COOL - 7/10/2006 10:43:38 PM
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Where has that class action lawsuit gone? All I've read was that it was being compiled, but that information is 2+ years old. That was all I could find... Was there a settlement? Was there anything done with this? Did it actually make class action status? I think I asked about this earlier in this thread with NO answer. Please fill in the blanks...
I don't love anything. Let me say it again, I'm playing the advocate for Dexcool in this discussion. You're the one that so vehemently HATES the stuff.
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RE: WHO'S HAD GOOD LUCK WITH DEX-COOL - 7/11/2006 3:49:34 AM
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Dino55, I had a flush done by a shop and they got alot of crap out from the heater core. (around 80,xxx miles.) If there were any sign of core failure, rad failure, or any thing like that, I would be be right with ya on being displeased w/ dexcool.
I've read other folks misfortunes on the web as well. I went ahead and had them dump Dexcool/deathkill back in there. On the way home I picked up a new T stat, & rad cap. At home I installed them and purged the cooling system. heater blows like a hooker on a sailer on R &R. It's too bad it didn't work out for ya.
cheers
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RE: WHO'S HAD GOOD LUCK WITH DEX-COOL - 7/11/2006 8:32:55 AM
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ive never heard anything good about dexcool...
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RE: WHO'S HAD GOOD LUCK WITH DEX-COOL - 7/11/2006 9:14:11 AM
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swartlkk
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ORIGINAL: lunatic_magnet
ive never heard anything good about dexcool...
Did you read anything in this thread?
The simple fact is you will ALWAYS here the bad things and very rarely do you hear someone speak about something if it hasn't caused a problem. Hence my stance in this discussion. Someone has to do it.
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RE: WHO'S HAD GOOD LUCK WITH DEX-COOL - 7/11/2006 10:16:51 AM
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Well, I look at this way. For a class action lawsuit to have any merit.... they would need to have independant labratory testing to back up their claims.
the truth will come out. It could be dex-cool interacts with a certain element, or not. Is the entire product bad...... I look at it this way. I have never owned a vehicle with it, but, if it was as bad as it was, and caused as much havoc as everyone claims it does, GM would not have continued to use the product for as long as they have. The damage caused and repairs would have put a huge dent in there profit, and as we all know, Corporations hate not making tons and tons of money.
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