RE: Sway bar pros/cons
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RE: Sway bar pros/cons - 8/20/2006 3:44:47 AM
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Cow Killer
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thats a good idea acutaly. cut bar in half with 2 inches or so out of the middle. the sleeve it with a thick tube, with pins in each end. wound need grease zerks to stop it from rustin up.
might have to try this. truing to make quick disconnects for the front is hard due to the short links. i just carry 2 9/16 wrenches and undo em
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RE: Sway bar pros/cons - 8/20/2006 2:09:58 PM
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swartlkk
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You guys underestimate the forces that the sway bar undergoes. A hole drilled through the sway bar will weaken it to the point where it will mostlikely break. If not, over time the hole will egg shape and ruin the swaybar.
The center of a sway bar is not the area you want to be messing with anyway. Any modification to the center section will modify it's torsional rigidity, changing how the swaybar will react. If anything, you'll want to modify one of the sides where it bends in for the end link.
I would go with what hanr3 has suggested and mimic a proven design of a quick disconnect end link. That is the safest and most reliable place to disconnect your sway bar.
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RE: Sway bar pros/cons - 8/20/2006 6:42:44 PM
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Cow Killer
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if u can come up with one that works well. i wil take it. our endlinks are to short to mimic the jeep ones.
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1983 F250 6.9 diesel, long tube headers, turned up injection pump, straight pipes. gets better mileage than the blazer.
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RE: Sway bar pros/cons - 8/21/2006 7:42:37 AM
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m00nwater
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Well, we didn't have any problems this weekend at all. But, we got back Sunday night and within hours we picked up a new Superlift to install, so with new links included, we don't have that issue anymore. Shannon's friend that is installing it is going to fab some disconnects as well, so it should be a bit safer on the streets once that is installed 
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RE: Sway bar pros/cons - 8/21/2006 7:50:05 AM
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lunatic_magnet
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thats a good idea acutaly. cut bar in half with 2 inches or so out of the middle. the sleeve it with a thick tube, with pins in each end. wound need grease zerks to stop it from rustin up.
might have to try this. truing to make quick disconnects for the front is hard due to the short links. i just carry 2 9/16 wrenches and undo em
youre talking about cutting a 300~500 lb spring in half, sleeving it back together with pins, and expecting it to be reliable and act the same as an uncut spring.
would you do that on one of your front coil springs?
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RE: Sway bar pros/cons - 8/21/2006 1:05:07 PM
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sledneck16
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now that i think of it----a couple bolts would never hold anyways lol--and if i put big enough bolts in, the bar would break.....too bad---would have been nice to have just one pin per swaybar to disconnect them....oh well im prolly just going to go to solid front axle and flip my rear and then fab up some panhard bars instead of sways. i'll keep thinking about disconnects though. 
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RE: Sway bar pros/cons - 8/21/2006 10:16:17 PM
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Cow Killer
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i was just thinkin out loud. i already plan on solid axle once i get outs college. front and rear outa a 4 cyl xj. wil have 4.10 stock.
hell, we used to weld the springs on the mack dump trucks all the time at the stone quarry i worked for. cut em down too. was always told to make it work.
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1983 F250 6.9 diesel, long tube headers, turned up injection pump, straight pipes. gets better mileage than the blazer.
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RE: Sway bar pros/cons - 8/27/2006 11:23:25 PM
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Tony Mantelli
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your best bet would be a quick connect for it because u are messin with your integrity of the sway bar the quick connect lets you disconnect the end and there is a pin so u can spin the bar up and out of the the way the twist it back down and you know quickly connect it back on for street use
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RE: Sway bar pros/cons - 9/2/2006 3:35:07 PM
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muslhed
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Here is a write up of mine that may shed some light on the subject. Due to the way the 1st Gen S-10 4x4 sway bar is designed, you would not be able to build disconnects for it. However, I think it would be possible to fab the 2nd Gen S-10 4x4 sway bar to the 1st Gen.
S-10 4x4 Sway Bar Disconnects
BTW, this is my first post here!
< Message edited by muslhed -- 9/2/2006 3:36:54 PM >
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RE: Sway bar pros/cons - 9/2/2006 8:17:49 PM
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swartlkk
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Nice writeup Jeremy! And welcome!!
My only question on your disconnects is if you can get the end links tight enough with that wing nut. If there is any play in the bushings, you'll wear things out faster. But with the cost of the links... Who really cares! LOL.
You have sparked my interests though. I have a Carr Lane catalog on my desk at work. For one of my fixture designs, I had to use some threaded cam locks that I'm thinking would be perfect for this purpose. They even had some with locking pin locations to secure them. This way, you could tighten them down as much as possible by hand, then use the cam lock to put the proper compression on the link bushings. This would work much like the hardware on a bicycle axle.
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RE: Sway bar pros/cons - 9/2/2006 10:30:59 PM
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Cow Killer
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the only thing i dont like with that is i dont always unhook mine, and i have hit the link on rocks, screwing up the threds. thats my only downfall i see. i might still try to make a pinned one like jeeps have if i ever get the time.
also thats zr2 usa sucks. lol. they wouldnt let me join due to mine not being a zr2, yet mines bigger than a stock zr2 by an inch. owell
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1983 F250 6.9 diesel, long tube headers, turned up injection pump, straight pipes. gets better mileage than the blazer.
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RE: Sway bar pros/cons - 9/3/2006 1:00:30 AM
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muslhed
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You can get them plenty tight with the wing nuts alone, and have no slack whatsoever. The locking pin also goes through the main bolt, between the wings, so that the wing not cannot back off even if it wanted to. I wheel this Blazer all the time, and it takes me about 2 minutes total to disco it or reconnect it. I've got about 50K miles on this setup thus far, with not one single issue to date.
Cow Killer, I've got a lil website you can check out if you like, called TXZR2.com. We don't discriminate! Lot's of good info & good folks on our site.
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RE: Sway bar pros/cons - 2/3/2007 12:48:42 AM
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Goat
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Thats basicaly all it is. I got disconects on my jeep and all it is is a tube that slids over the two ends with pins you pull. WAY better off road. As for keeping the axle sentered , i'm not sure if this applys here but my jeep ( TJ with 4 link , not leafs) has a panhard bar that does that. I broke one side once and the drive home was pretty scary
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RE: Sway bar pros/cons - 2/3/2007 10:37:41 AM
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m00nwater
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Well,she sold the Jeep and now has a Suzuki Sizekick which we are planning on making as big as possible next spring in time for the offroading season. The problem with it is that it has the IFS, so we can't do much of a lift without getting into lots of $$$. For now she just got 31's and it will only be as big of a lift as possible without totally re-doing the front end.
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RE: Sway bar pros/cons - 2/3/2007 11:44:38 AM
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Goat
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hey hidekicks are cool. small to get into tight trails. Look at my truck, theres lots of trails i cant go down cause of the size but i like mud bogging so, it's good for that. My first truck was an '85 s-10 with 31's on it and i had just as much fun with that than my montser truck and it didn't break nearly as often ( right now i got no 4 wheel drive, front axle granaded and my trany jumps from 2nd to 3rd and back all the time.) small trucks are fun too.
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RE: Sway bar pros/cons - 2/3/2007 3:49:27 PM
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m00nwater
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Ya, it's actually a very fun vehicle. I like driving it, and you are right, it will get into spots the bigger guys can't. We need to install a snorkel on it as well for those really deep holes
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RE: Sway bar pros/cons - 2/3/2007 9:11:16 PM
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Paddle_grl
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Ya, it's actually a very fun vehicle. I like driving it, and you are right, it will get into spots the bigger guys can't. We need to install a snorkel on it as well for those really deep holes
what the water puddles??? lol!! actualy that vehicle would be great in the michigan area....they only clear out trails barely bigger than atv's! (gotta watch my rack so it dosen't get stuck in trees)
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RE: Sway bar pros/cons - 2/3/2007 9:55:19 PM
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RE: Sway bar pros/cons - 4/14/2007 9:32:23 PM
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Sorry to bring this thread back from the dead. Just thought I'd let you all know. Today one of my front endlinks broke, so I took the other side off (well, broke it off...damn rust!) and flipped the swaybar forward. I was planning to get new ones on monday, but after a day of driving it, it wasn't so bad. It does lean a little more in the turns, but you just have to drive it like an SUV, not a hot rod. I also noticed a much smoother ride. I took it back to the rock I'm flexing on in my ROTM photo and noticed a lot more articulation. My left front tire was stuffed up in the fender and I climbed much higher up. Huge difference! (sorry, i forgot to bring my camera) I'll take a pic another day and post the two together.
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RE: Sway bar pros/cons - 4/15/2007 12:22:24 AM
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Yep, those would be the two out comes from removing the sway bar.
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