Blazer vs. Passat
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Blazer vs. Passat - 9/3/2006 5:39:08 PM
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mik9545
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My freind wants to race me. My Blazer vs. his Passat
My Blazer is stock 4.3L 190hp at 4400rpm and the Passat is a stock 1.8 turbo with 170hp automatic
He says he will beat me. But Im not sure if I could beat a 1.8turbo.
Could I win?
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RE: Blazer vs. Passat - 9/3/2006 6:06:49 PM
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swartlkk
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In the 1/4 mile, a passat will win. You may get the jump off the line with the superior torque of the 4.3L, but he'll pass you probably before 1/2 track and leave you behind.
Here's the stats courtesy of Edmunds.com:
2002 Passat 1.8T FWD - Curb Weight 3225lbs - 170hp @ 5900rpm - 166lbft @ 1950rpm - 18.97lb/hp - 8.2sec 0-60mph
1997 Blazer 4.3L 4WD - Curb Weight 4050lbs - 190hp @ 4400rpm - 250lbft @ 2500rpm - 21.32lb/hp - 9.3sec 0-60mph
I had to use a 2002 Passat stats because you never specified the year, but the 2001 Passat 1.8T only had 150hp.
< Message edited by swartlkk -- 9/14/2006 4:59:17 PM >
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RE: Blazer vs. Passat - 9/6/2006 1:08:53 PM
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BigGreenMonster
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I'll lend you my Xr-7.. It will beat the turbo passat.. dont ask how I know.. its against forum rules.
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RE: Blazer vs. Passat - 9/6/2006 1:10:50 PM
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flowmasta
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i say put some work into your blazer then race him....with a few added extras u whould be able to take a stock passat....least i think, anyone else agree?
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RE: Blazer vs. Passat - 9/6/2006 1:17:40 PM
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XBlazer01
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well i ran a MKV Jetta. same car basically. only this one wasnt turbo 
She had a CAI, full custom exhaust and some other ricer crap.
I just have a CAI and catbak exhaust. Ran her the whole run  Luckily we ran out of room for the race so i won. if it woulda kept goin she woulda takin me
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RE: Blazer vs. Passat - 9/6/2006 1:49:13 PM
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BigGreenMonster
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My blazer might take it... Its pre-vortech 160hp stock, but the stuff done to it,, according to the man who built it should be making 200-210hp.
Bored over .40/ some fancy camshaft from and I quote "from a recreational vehicle", I dont know much about that../ cylinder heads ported and polished etc, catalytic converter delete
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RE: Blazer vs. Passat - 9/6/2006 2:01:23 PM
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swartlkk
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Well, if the statistics I gave above are correct, he already has you by 1.1 seconds to 60mph... That's a tough hole to climb out of...
In order to match his power to weight ratio, you'd need to gain ~30hp just to match the 18.97lb/hp. So you'd need to be putting down 220hp atleast and that's without sacrifices in the torque curve to hurt you further. The hole shot is in your favor, but the weight of the truck is like a boat anchor. That's not even bringing the gear ratios into play, which may be in your favor in the 1/4...
I did find a *stock* time of 15.462 sec @ 90.93 mph for a 2001 VW Passat GLS 1.8T, but it states that he has a CAI and it's a manual trans car... Also... A 1998 Blazer LS with a flowmaster cat back and K&N intake running 16.4 sec @ 80.0 mph, but it doesn't state 4wd or 2wd... A general rule of thumb in the 1/4 is +10hp = -100lbs = -0.1sec, but even that has its limits... However, based on that, if you could drop 200-300lbs from the truck (think spare tire, additional seats, carpet, etc), you'd stand a chance...
*EDIT* - noticed an error in the weight of the VW. Changed it there and updated this posts math. Also had a problem with the weight of the Blazer. Things are looking much closer now...
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RE: Blazer vs. Passat - 9/6/2006 3:41:35 PM
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I did find a *stock* time of 15.462 sec @ 90.93 mph for a 2001 VW Passat GLS 1.8T
Cougar send VeeeDUB packin'.. Oh snap!!! I just dropped it like its hot, yo... lol.. love those commericals..
"Factory stock"??? lol.. I dont know the meaning of the word 
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RE: Blazer vs. Passat - 9/6/2006 9:28:39 PM
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DetroitMuscle
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1.1 deficit, you = owned
What is done to the blazer? intake? Intakes add little to nothing at the rear wheels where it counts, those HP specs are at the crankshaft not the rear wheels, its about a 15% drivetrain loss with rear wheel drive, atleast thats what the engine and chassis dynos have proven to me on my camino.
Its an SUV take it in the dirt not the track, leave the track to fast cars and the streets to the public.
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RE: Blazer vs. Passat - 9/7/2006 1:10:41 AM
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ORIGINAL: DetroitMuscle
1.1 deficit, you = owned
What is done to the blazer? intake? Intakes add little to nothing at the rear wheels where it counts, those HP specs are at the crankshaft not the rear wheels, its about a 15% drivetrain loss with rear wheel drive, atleast thats what the engine and chassis dynos have proven to me on my camino.
Its an SUV take it in the dirt not the track, leave the track to fast cars and the streets to the public.
Youre right,, thats what the Cougar is for... I wasnt the owner of my Blazer when that stuff was done to the engine... I bought it because it was cheap.
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RE: Blazer vs. Passat - 9/7/2006 7:11:48 AM
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DetroitMuscle
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ORIGINAL: BigGreenMonster
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ORIGINAL: DetroitMuscle
1.1 deficit, you = owned
What is done to the blazer? intake? Intakes add little to nothing at the rear wheels where it counts, those HP specs are at the crankshaft not the rear wheels, its about a 15% drivetrain loss with rear wheel drive, atleast thats what the engine and chassis dynos have proven to me on my camino.
Its an SUV take it in the dirt not the track, leave the track to fast cars and the streets to the public.
Youre right,, thats what the Cougar is for... I wasnt the owner of my Blazer when that stuff was done to the engine... I bought it because it was cheap.
Wasnt meaning it towards you, I mean if its fast sure take it and make some money at the track but if its a daily driver treat it like one and dont abuse it. Going Fast= Broken Parts.
All it does is feed the SUV asshole stereotype of being a road hog and offensive drivers if you mess around on the street in plain view of any public.
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RE: Blazer vs. Passat - 9/7/2006 7:35:05 AM
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BigGreenMonster
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ORIGINAL: DetroitMuscle
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ORIGINAL: BigGreenMonster
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ORIGINAL: DetroitMuscle
1.1 deficit, you = owned
What is done to the blazer? intake? Intakes add little to nothing at the rear wheels where it counts, those HP specs are at the crankshaft not the rear wheels, its about a 15% drivetrain loss with rear wheel drive, atleast thats what the engine and chassis dynos have proven to me on my camino.
Its an SUV take it in the dirt not the track, leave the track to fast cars and the streets to the public.
Youre right,, thats what the Cougar is for... I wasnt the owner of my Blazer when that stuff was done to the engine... I bought it because it was cheap.
Wasnt meaning it towards you, I mean if its fast sure take it and make some money at the track but if its a daily driver treat it like one and dont abuse it. Going Fast= Broken Parts.
All it does is feed the SUV asshole stereotype of being a road hog and offensive drivers if you mess around on the street in plain view of any public.
I know what you mean. Im not really sure what my Blazer will do... Its old and quite frankly it scares me anyway... My Cougar is pretty decent.. It will do mid 15s with just me in it and no stereo crap in the trunk, so Id have my hands full with a manual passat according to the time provided.. I ran down a Jetta turbo (already pointed out its similar to Passat),, assuming it was an automatic given the provided track times...
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RE: Blazer vs. Passat - 9/7/2006 8:11:37 PM
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DetroitMuscle
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Only 15's? Must be a V6
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RE: Blazer vs. Passat - 9/7/2006 8:14:18 PM
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BigGreenMonster
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Only 15's? Must be a V6
No sir, 4.6 Modular SOHC 220hp estimated. The V6s that they put in those things were dogs, I think they run 17s.
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in the 1/4. i have 01 2dr. 2wd. too.
