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RE: Factory Freak Blazer - 9/29/2006 12:05:52 AM
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jagblazer01
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Now a factory stock GT I can beleive if you are actually running 14.7sec, but I'm still skeptical of your times. A stock GT will run right around your time, but open the exhaust and intake and all bets are off.
Now I'm calling flat out BS on your WS6 story. A bone stock WS6 TA will run mid-to-low 13sec 1/4s all day long!
my stock GT ran 14.4 with no exhaust...once i bolted on the O/R x-pipe and hollow muffler i was at a 14.1.....so i highly doubt u beat a GT unless the guy seriously didn't know how to drive...and yea i agree with swart on the WS6 story...like he said...mid to low 13 sec. bone stock car...those WS6's are no joke. Im waiting to her...."O i beat a EVO 9 the other day". lol
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RE: Factory Freak Blazer - 9/29/2006 9:37:34 AM
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He didn't say in the e-mail what turbo they run. This guy can't keep his story straight anyway. He said in the first post that he was running a "16.7 which is better than its supposed to be" when clearly as I stated from Car and Driver it is an average 1/4 time. Then a few posts later when he is trying to defend his claim he says he is running 16.5's. So which is it? He trips and falls flat on his face over his own lies. Maybe it is just me, but does it tick you off when people try to be special (because there is nothing else about them that sets them apart) or make unfounded claims to get attention? The WS6 story *hahahahahahaha* he was joking right?! I'm not sure I could even think up a lie like that because I'd be laughing at myself to hard! Beating a GT *hahahaha*? No way. Sorry. I own a 95 GT with 25,000 miles on it. I know what they are capable of (and that's an older model not as finely tuned as the ones from the last few years). Your dreaming on that one buddy. Wow, if Offroaddude does come back for more punishment from those of us who know better, then we better get some wading pants. With the stories he is laying down it's getting real deep in here!
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RE: Factory Freak Blazer - 9/29/2006 1:09:56 PM
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hey i just wanted to come on here and clear things up a little if possible for u guys. Saturday Oct. 7th i will be going to milan to run my blazer for the day. regardless of what it runs i will post it and the video. Even if i dont run what i say (ex. 15.7 in the quarter) doesnt matter if im wrong ill be the first to admit it. but im still sticking to my guns until i know for sure. next question "Were did u come up with 14.7?" well i didnt pull it out of my butt. nonnono thats what i was told by a couple of well known engine builders(KATECH) and ive been racin for many years, from waterford, ssca, milan, motocross. all of it, i was fortunate to be born in to a racing family. it just feels like it could be close i will not be runnin low 14's for a while, i need a couple more things to get it down there but low 15's high 14's is plausable. im not on here to mess with u guys/girls or piss u off. im on here for the same reasons u are. I am a proud owner of a blazer. i guess i should have posted something in the new members section first before comin on here and sayin i run 14's. u guys seem pretty cool and id like to keep it that way. i will post some pics of my blazer later on tonight or something on here. i love my blazer as do im sure the rest of u do ur own blazers.
i cant wait to see what this thing runs and i will share it with u, i have nothing to be embarrassed about. also its not that what i have done is a secret(was messin with ya there) its that fact that i dont know what the previous owner did to this thing, i only know what i did too it. my trans shifts at 5000 and it shifts at the following: 2nd-40m.p.h. 3rd-65/70m.p.h. and 4th at 110/115 m.ph. thats where im lost, i dont know what he did to it. and there is no shift kit cause its a 4l60E, i was thinkin servos but idn it doesnt feel like he just change the servos. cause if that was case this trans would have went months ago the way i drive it. "30m.p.h. roll it revs till 4500/5000 and dumps it HARD into 1st and starts chirpin the tires then hooks and launchs like a bat out of h*LL. alright thats enough for now
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RE: Factory Freak Blazer - 9/29/2006 1:16:37 PM
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rabbit0102030
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Now you sound more credible to me. Just come in and be honest, nobody is here to ridicule you (unless you ask for it).
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RE: Factory Freak Blazer - 9/29/2006 10:07:47 PM
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Speaking on my behalf, the car FREAK that I am, I would like to see that 94 S10 boosting 30 p.s.i. Keep us posted!! 
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RE: Factory Freak Blazer - 10/2/2006 8:50:35 AM
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Yea 15.8 is ALOT more believable than a low 14. By the way...very nice lookin' truck!
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RE: Factory Freak Blazer - 10/2/2006 11:53:09 AM
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jagblazer01
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yea the 15.8 is more believeable....what else u doing to get that time down?
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RE: Factory Freak Blazer - 10/2/2006 1:05:50 PM
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Yes, a MUCH more believable time.
Now, who goes to the strip and only makes one pass? Even on a packed test/tune night at the 1/4mi track, I'll make atleast 3 passes. On our local 1/8mi track, I'll do more like 6-8 passes.
Why race with additional weight (tools, etc)? That just doesn't make any sense. What tree config did they have for you? Did all 3 amber lights come on at once or did they count down to green?
Also, why load up the TC if you are just going to spin out of the hole? That's kind of like shooting yourself in the foot... If you have enough power to spin them, you don't just mat the throttle and hope it sticks...
And you sleeping at the light will not improve your ET... You RT (reaction time) does not impact your ET (elapsed time). So a horribly slow RT of 0.686sec is just how long it took for you to see the green light, release the brake, and stab the gas. A 2.2sec 60' time isn't a completely bad, but I don't think you'll pick up any more than .3 seconds there. So if the truck ran like it was supposed to after 60', then you can expect to make it down to 15.5sec - 1/4, but I wouldn't expect much lower.
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RE: Factory Freak Blazer - 10/2/2006 3:36:55 PM
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EkStreem G
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Truck looks nice. Except for the front end it kinda looks like the V8 Lt4 Blazer G.M. did in 1995. How much did you lower it?
< Message edited by EkStreem G -- 10/3/2006 12:48:01 AM >
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RE: Factory Freak Blazer - 10/3/2006 11:24:44 AM
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I do know why you would load up a TC, that wasn't the point of my question. My point was that you are already spinning the tires. Loading the TC will promote that if you can't control the throttle enough to combat it. By loading everything up, if you apply too much power, you'll lose traction - if there is enough power to do so...
Here's a good explaination of automatic launch technique:
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From: Modern Racer - Launch Techniques
In general, automatic transmissions are known as being more useful for lazy commuters than for hardcore racers. But it may be surprising for some to know that many pro drag-racing cars have heavy-duty auto gearboxes. That's because the brake-torque launch is an automatic specialty. This launch involves keeping the car stationary by flooring the brakes with the left foot, while using the right foot to rev up the engine against the torque converter. In technical terms, this preloads the entire drivetrain with the stress of a launch, allowing the engine to rev closer to its power and torque peaks at the starting line. Brake-torquing is also beneficial for turbocharged engines as it allows boost to build up before the launch, reducing turbo lag. The only problem is that there is a lot of stress on the transmission, and the consequent heat build-up can destroy your automatic gearbox. Unless your car has too much power for the tires to handle, a brake-torque launch usually will not spin the wheels. This is because the automatic transmission absorbs the shock by design, and brake-torquing actually reduces stress on the rest of the drivetrain. Instead of a sudden massive load, the drivetrain has the torque applied slower instead of one huge jolt.
So you are preloading the drivetrain, not the suspension. If you are spinning the tires, you need to either increase the tire's contact patch with the ground for more traction, or decrease your pre-launch rpm.
And good luck with the 'eyebrow' out of your intake... Unless you have increased the diameter of the MAF, you aren't gaining anything. I have run with mine out and have noticed a lean condition on the rear cylinders because of the concentration of EGR gasses in the front cylinders. The 'eyebrow' promotes even distribution of the EGR gasses. The only thing that removing the 'eyebrow', as you call it, will do is increase the off idle throttle response. WOT is limited by the associated sizes of other components in the intake path.
*EDIT* - Here's another very good quote for you:
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If you're at the track for the first time and if you're trying to simply establish the baseline performance of your vehicle, forget about trying to cut a good light. It's simply too much for most beginners to work on both their reaction time and launch techniques at the same time, so don't be afraid to leave a second or so after the green light comes on. Your reaction time will suck, but the reaction time is not factored into the elapsed time. Only once the car can be launched perfectly each time and every time should one start worrying about cutting good lights (or beating the guy in the other lane, for that matter).
< Message edited by swartlkk -- 10/3/2006 11:30:50 AM >
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RE: Factory Freak Blazer - 10/3/2006 10:12:37 PM
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wow, i leave for another few days and i miss a heated debate... I don't know what my blazer runs in the quarter and i don't really care. It wasn't meant to be a drag racer. I go more for the rugged, muddin look in SUV's and trucks. 15.8 sounds a lot better than low 14's...and i really thought someone was kiddin with all that 14 sec talk. And try to run more than one pass. take everything out, which includes but is not limited to tools, spare tire, college books. And try to arrive at the track with like a 1/4 tank of gas or less, so you can cut the weight down...good luck
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