Very stupid offroading!
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RE: Very stupid offroading! - 11/16/2006 10:58:26 PM
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KA3AX
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Wow, thanks a lot for your instant response! Do you know if our blazers are equipped with some kind of protection from water damage happening to the engine by any chance? I know that if the motor is very low on oil then it will cut off and not start before you put more oil in it, so I'm thinking maybe the same with water??? I think that they probably not but just asking. I got down in the muddy water up to my bumpers (even higher a little bit) so I couldn't even see my wheels!!! So my gas tank probably has water in it, and I will probably have to change the oil in my dif and tranny and engine, right? What about the CV joints, do I have to get the water out of the boots too?
Thanks again for your help!
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RE: Very stupid offroading! - 11/16/2006 11:34:26 PM
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4lowlife
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CV's should be sealed. I would change the t case fluid. Dunno how long the breather tube straw is, if there is one. Maybe the rear diff fluid too. I know the rear axle tube goes to the body on mine.
As long as it didnt inhale water, I cant think of a reason there would be water in the engine/intake area.
If it did, remove the plugs as stated above and attept to turn it over a few times. And spray some ether into the throttle body.
From what you described. I can see water go up through the tailpipe, but not past the exhaust manifolds.
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RE: Very stupid offroading! - 11/16/2006 11:59:32 PM
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sounds like me 4 weeks ago. I had a 97 4 door 3" w/ 31's. I blew my motor and got a new jasper motor poped in. Broke it in and i wanted to get a lilttle mud on the tires. I found a hole so deep that the water line went up to the wheel wells. 31's w/ a 3" and still went in that deep. motor stoped car filled compltey with water. the motor was 3 days old and i broke it already haha. My buddy got a friends titian and it ripped me out of there like it was nothing. Turns out i just fried my starter. The guy told me the starters really dont like water, esp when its under water. the motor was fine, BUT there was soo much mud in the tranny and t-case they had to be rebuilt i guess they got filled when the breathers wetn under. One expenive offroading adventure and a pain in the but gutting the INT of the car and cleaning it. I wouldnt even try to start that thing untill you drained all the fulids put new stuff in and taken the plugs out, only when your sure all your fluids are good and you have no mud or what not, give it a shot and crank it. You could snap a rod if you dont
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RE: Very stupid offroading! - 11/17/2006 9:41:42 AM
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 That sucks KA3AX! Got any pics?
< Message edited by samurai_24 -- 11/17/2006 9:42:26 AM >
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RE: Very stupid offroading! - 11/21/2006 3:06:00 PM
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kaindragoon36
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Your engine stalled because you got water in the distributor...they don't play nice when that happesn. Had that happen a lot when I was younger driving thru mud holes on our farm.
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RE: Very stupid offroading! - 11/21/2006 3:21:54 PM
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More than likely it stalled because water shorted out the MAF sensor and the computer shut it down to keep it from blowing. The MAF sensor will shut down the truck if it senses to much moisture in the intake system, since the wires in the MAF use heat to determine how much air is flowing into the intake when water shorts them out the computer adjusts the fuel injetors accordingly and if it leans the mixture below the factory tables in the computer well, the computer is smart enough to turn off the spark so the pistons don't melt from an overly lean condition...
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RE: Very stupid offroading! - 11/22/2006 12:19:16 PM
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KA3AX
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Thanks a lot everyone for your help and understandment of my situation!
I just checked my tranny and transfer case and both of them had a lot of water inside of them. I took my Blazer to my friend (he has this tranny fluid flush machine) and we flushed the tranny and changed the oil in the transfer case. Now I'm worried about the tranny, a lot of people see to say that if I got water in it then I need to change it (basically it will die very soon). Is there any chance that my tranny could survive? It has roughly 80,000 miles on it. What about my T-case? Any chance that it will survive? The T-case has about 150,000 miles on it.
I paid the guy $65.00 for labor, is that decent? or a rip off?
Thanks
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1997 4x4 2dr Black Beast
MODS:
2000 ZR2 Engine & Tranny
LR D1 muffler
rear sway bar removed
2in PA body lift
31" BFG AT
15x7 Crager Soft 8s
1.25" wheel spacers in the back
custom front bumper/grill guard
CB
power inverter
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RE: Very stupid offroading! - 12/2/2006 5:16:29 PM
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Hanr3
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If you didn't drive the truck with the tranny full of water, and then had it flushed out via the machine, you should be alright. The machine flush will pump all the water/tranny fluid out of the system. $65 is a good deal. Do it agian to make srue you got ALL the water out.
Vents tubes-
Rear axle runs up to the body over the axle. If you plan on doing this again, extend it to the engine comaprtment and place it as high up as possible on the firewall.
Tranny- has a small short vent tube on top. If the tranny was completely sumerged, the heat and cold water will cause the tranny to suck in, if that hose is below water level, it sucks water. Extend that one up into the engine compartment as well.
T-case- has 3 hoeses hooked up to it in one place and one hose in teh back.
1 hose provides vacuum to the t-case, comes from teh back side of the intake manifold next to the distriburator.
One hose takes that vacuum and runs it up to the vacum actuator located next to or under the battery tray. This engages the front axle when you engage the 4x4 system.
One hose is a vent line. it ahs a tee fitting and pciks up that vent line off the back of the t-case. It end next to the vacumm actuator.
If oyu have water in your t-case, you either burried the passengers side of the engine under water, or you have a leak in the vent line. All three of these hoses run up next to the tranny dipstick tube, and they are held to the top tranny bellhousing bolt with a bracket. Dont go wanking on them to move them out of the way, they are anchored. Getting the bolt off is fun. I can tell you how best to do it, however it will cost you a beer.
Front diff- has a vent line that runs up behind one of the head lights. Drivers I think.
The major problem with suicking in water though the intake is the high possibility of bending a vavle stem, or cracking a piston rod. Water doesnt compress. PERIOD. You may get lucky an blow the spark plug out the block, but dont count on it. Sounds like you may have gotten lucky, and the MAS/MAF sensor saved your bacon. I highly suggest two things for the future.
1) Take a buddy who also ahs a 4x4 and both of you need to have proper tow points and know how to use a strap. See link below.
2) If you intend to venture into water/mud that deep again, install a snorkle (home made, no on makes one for our trucks), bring WD-40 to clean the distriburator cap, and have fun.
Heres that link
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RE: Very stupid offroading! - 12/2/2006 5:17:02 PM
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Hanr3
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quote:
ORIGINAL: ceanern
I've seen where ppl recomend changing all fluids, oils, tranny fluids, filters Just to be on the safe side. Espically if it sat there for a while. Better safe than sorry.
Excellent words of advice!!!!!!
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RE: Very stupid offroading! - 12/2/2006 11:14:49 PM
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Jigg
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I'm with the guys above, change the front and rear diff fluids. These trucks actually aren't all that bad for going through water if you can keep traction. The group that i run with has had a few guys hydrolock at certain points, but within 20 minutes or so, everything's good to go. Leaving the truck in the water for an extended period of time should be a last resort. That's when you run into trouble with getting water in every little crevace.
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RE: Very stupid offroading! - 12/3/2006 3:38:36 AM
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<----is that why its your OLD blazer? lol.....yea i've been that deep before too--unless you're lifted......
but yea definetly at the very least check your fluids for water.....it should not mix with any important fluids in our truck so if you drain the fluid into a clean container and look closely you should be able to put it back in if its good--it also never hurts to just totally change the fluids...
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Now it is still stuck in the water because I don't have any equipment to take it out yet. So my questions are: What happens now with my engine being flooded, or did I flood it at all or maybe it just cut off? If I leave my Blazer setting in the water for couple of days to a week, will that harm the engine or tranny even more? 
