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Im doin the seafoam! - 12/18/2006 7:38:47 PM   
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Ok well tommorrow I plan on going to VIP and picking up some seafoam and new AC Delco plugs, I havnt decided which ones yet but I need to know where to pour this into. I just read a post where a guy poured it into the PCV valve but had bad results. Should I do this too, and if so where is this PCV Valve?

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RE: Im doin the seafoam! - 12/18/2006 7:47:09 PM   
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let is be SUCKED from the can thru your brake booster hose, I didnt have good results using the PCV valve. Just hold the can upright, and put the hose in the can just above the liquid level so It can suck it up. Let it keep sucking it down till it stalls on its own, pour the rest in the fuel tank and let it sit for 5-15 minutes then start it back up, make sure you are outside, preferably away from people, there is a TON of smoke. I used an industrial park on a sunday morning..

Dont force the hose into the liquid it will stall and you gotta start over, It helps to hold the hose and can in the same hand, little air will be sucked in if you use your hand as a gasket.


Hope it helps, I use the stuff religiously.

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RE: Im doin the seafoam! - 12/18/2006 7:53:54 PM   
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I am still kind of confused on how I should hold the tube in the can and how it should be fitted in the can. You make it sound like it has to be just perfect for it to be right so could you explain this a little better? So the tube has to be right above the liquid, but how does it suck the liquid up then?

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RE: Im doin the seafoam! - 12/18/2006 8:04:21 PM   
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I am still kind of confused on how I should hold the tube in the can and how it should be fitted in the can. You make it sound like it has to be just perfect for it to be right so could you explain this a little better? So the tube has to be right above the liquid, but how does it suck the liquid up then?


the engine vacuum will suck up the liquid, just make a circle with your thumb and tirgger finger, while holding the hose wrap your other digits around the hose AND top of can (sorta creates a gasket) and let the engine vacuum suck the liquid up, You have to hold it ABOVE the liquid line in order to not stall out the motor.

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RE: Im doin the seafoam! - 12/18/2006 8:07:38 PM   
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Ok so I take the hose, put it in the can and hold it above somthing...when you say liquid level I think of the liquid inside of the can. Where is this vacum line?

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RE: Im doin the seafoam! - 12/18/2006 9:14:02 PM   
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so what exactly whill this do?? is it to clean out the intake manifold?? I guess that I just kind of stumbled onto this conversation...lol I will go and read up on it.

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RE: Im doin the seafoam! - 12/18/2006 9:20:42 PM   
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I believe if you disconnect the MAF electrical connector and remove the intake duct work, you can pour it right down the TB.  Just have your hand on the butterfly valve to keep the engine running and you should be set.

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RE: Im doin the seafoam! - 12/18/2006 10:18:32 PM   
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Ok well I am lost, I thought this would help. But I am told half of the info I need and the other half is a mystery. I strongly suggest that someone who has done this a number of times right up a how to on this since I know a couple dozen people including my self dont know how. I want to do this tommorow night but if I cannot figure out how...I wont be doing it. Is sucking it through the brake booster hose a good way of doing it? I am not sure what he brake booster hose is but it doesnt sound like this would be the way of injecting seafoam into my engine.

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RE: Im doin the seafoam! - 12/18/2006 11:01:50 PM   
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Ok well I am lost, I thought this would help. But I am told half of the info I need and the other half is a mystery. I strongly suggest that someone who has done this a number of times right up a how to on this since I know a couple dozen people including my self dont know how. I want to do this tommorow night but if I cannot figure out how...I wont be doing it. Is sucking it through the brake booster hose a good way of doing it? I am not sure what he brake booster hose is but it doesnt sound like this would be the way of injecting seafoam into my engine.


The brake booster hose is the black hose that is connected to the big silver thing connected to your brakes in the engine compartment...there is a plastic 90* connector at the end of the hose, remove the hose from this plastic connector. The other end is connected to the upper manifold plenum and draws the most vacuum.

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RE: Im doin the seafoam! - 12/18/2006 11:11:31 PM   
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open up your hood.  stand at the drivers side tireput your right hand straight forward about 1 foot.  there you will find the master cylinder for the brakes.  right behind that is the brake booster (very large round thing, bout a foot in diameter.  there is a line coming off the brake booster that is black rubber.  kind of pointing towards rear-view mirror.  With the motor running, pull that hose off and point it down.  put can of seafoam up to the hose and try to get a good seal between line and the can of seafoam.  turn to a 90 degree angle, letting the vacuum fromt he brake line suck the seafoam in.  Dont actually pour the seafoam into the line.  Let the truck stall.  pour the remaining seafoam into the fuel tank.  let the truck sit for 10 min or so.  Start the truck and watch the smoke show.

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RE: Im doin the seafoam! - 12/18/2006 11:22:22 PM   
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Ok well I am just retarted, I am still confused on the exact procedure of what to do after you find the hose. The only thing I dont understand is how to hold the hose. You say hold the hose pointing down. Can I just take the can and shove the hose down into the can and let it suck the liquid out of it...

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RE: Im doin the seafoam! - 12/19/2006 7:42:28 AM   
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it wont fit over the can.  just put them tightly together, and tip the can on its side and let the vacuum of the brake booster suck the seafoarm out

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RE: Im doin the seafoam! - 12/19/2006 8:01:23 AM   
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it wont fit over the can.  just put them tightly together, and tip the can on its side and let the vacuum of the brake booster suck the seafoarm out



Good Deal, I apssed out last night, couldnt finish the convo.

I dont even know what year vehicle it is, but I wouldnt suggest pouring it down the TB, I dont think itll do a good job if its just poured, I think the vacuum sucking it up has to do with spreading it out over the carbon in the intake system.

I kinda wish I had a digicam to show the lines and a step by step.

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RE: Im doin the seafoam! - 12/19/2006 8:14:53 AM   
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I am going to try the brake booster hose seafoam today, I will take pictures with my digital and post them ok?I was going to take pictures of the EGR Cleaning process, but I forgot to charge my battery, and the camera was dead when I took it out there...I got one picture of the front drivers wheel off when I was doing the plugs and that was when it decided to die on me.

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RE: Im doin the seafoam! - 12/19/2006 8:29:11 AM   
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I am going to try the brake booster hose seafoam today, I will take pictures with my digital and post them ok?I was going to take pictures of the EGR Cleaning process, but I forgot to charge my battery, and the camera was dead when I took it out there...I got one picture of the front drivers wheel off when I was doing the plugs and that was when it decided to die on me.


That works, but why do people take the wheel and tire off to change the plugs? you dont need to do anything but turn it out of the way to get to number 3 and 5.

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RE: Im doin the seafoam! - 12/19/2006 8:52:39 AM   
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I removed the PCV hose from the drivers side valve cover and stuck a small funnel into the end of the hose that runs to the intake.  But first, see if your engine will run with the intake duct work off and MAF disconnected.  Or I will try it during lunch if you don't respond back by then.  If it runs, then simply pour 2/3rds of the bottle down the TB keeping the engine running.  Pour the last 1/3rd in fairly quickly (technical term I know) and let the engine die just as the last bit is sucked in.  Let it sit for 15-30 minutes and then go drive it like you stole it until the smoke clears from the exhaust.

Atleast pull all of the plugs to check them for fouling as well as proper gap.  Change the oil once you have completed the upper intake cleaning.

Everything should be done with the engine up to full operating temperature.

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I dont even know what year vehicle it is, but I wouldnt suggest pouring it down the TB, I dont think itll do a good job if its just poured, I think the vacuum sucking it up has to do with spreading it out over the carbon in the intake system.

I kinda wish I had a digicam to show the lines and a step by step.

Actually, pouring it down the TB is the preferred method, but it cannot be done on vehicles with horizontally placed TBs.  By pulling it through a vac line, you are making it more concentrated at the location where that vac line pulls the cleaning fluid in.  So for the PCV valve, the fluid will be more concentrated on the driver's side bank than on the passenger side bank simply due to the location and orientation of the PCV valve vacuum source in the upper intake.  The same is true for the brake booster source.  IIRC, it is also located on the driver side of the intake manifold. 

The TB will sufficiently atomize the fluid when pulled past the butterfly valve and when poured towards the back of the TB, it will promote a more even distribution than through one of the vacuum sources.

Now all of this is true for the '96+ vortec 4.3L.  For the other years, if you have a vacuum source on the TB itself, use that to suck the seafoam into the engine either out of the can or pour it into a small funnel.

I can't even remember how many cans of seafoam I have used on a very wide variety of vehicles, but what the heck do I know...


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RE: Im doin the seafoam! - 12/19/2006 9:48:44 AM   
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I used the PCV hose, too.  I actually cut the bottom off of a beer can.  Since I didn't leave in backwash in the beer can, it was easily rinsed off and dried.  I then poured very little Seafoam into the beer can bottom.  I then started the Blazer and disconnected the PCV hose from the valve cover.  I then stuck that into the Seafoam in the bottom of the beer can.  It sucked it up quickly and huffed and puffed.  I poured some more Seafoam into the beer can bottom and repeated.  I actually stalled the Blazer twice doing this.  I was worried about hydrolocking (or whatever) but not too much.  I then shut off the Blazer, actually I didn't start after it stalled.  I waited a good 20 or 30 minutes.  I went out and started the Blazer up and drove for the highway for a 10 mile spin.  My goodness did that sucker smoke.  If you know as little as I do it almost makes you nervous seeing all of that smoke coming out of a previous fine running Blazer.  Too my amazement the Blazer ran every bit as good as it did before, if not better.  The hardest part was not cutting my hand on the beer can bottom.

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RE: Im doin the seafoam! - 12/19/2006 11:33:37 AM   
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On my vehicles with a regular throttle body, i poured it in there, and with the 94 blazer i let it suck up the booster hose.  Both methods worked very well.  The blazer smoked so badly, that people were stopping in the neighborhood to see what was on fire.  It was very embarrassing.

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RE: Im doin the seafoam! - 12/19/2006 4:21:56 PM   
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lol ok so where is the TB? I take the intake tube off the top of the engine and thats the TB? I just pour it down in where the air gets sucked in?

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RE: Im doin the seafoam! - 12/19/2006 4:26:10 PM   
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Yup.  Sorry...  I didn't get a chance to see if my truck would run without the MAF sensor plugged in during lunch, but I believe it will.  I'll check when I get home.

But yeah, you'll dribble it down in there.  The amount you dribble down in is dependant on how easy you can keep it running.  Just try to keep the fluid to the back of the throttle body.


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