RE: Horrible Gas Mileage on my New 2004 4.3ltr. Help!
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RE: Horrible Gas Mileage on my New 2004 4.3ltr. Help! - 3/21/2007 1:23:37 AM
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Zygoat
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i think i have seen that magnet thing, i believe the mythbusters tested it on one of the episodes. they found that it did actualy work and that the federal trade commision found the same results. it was miniscule like 3% at best but it did work. i has to be mounted as close to the engin as possible if i remeber right. but for $6 3% ant too bad. they also found that changing your driving habbits (ie staying out of it) could help by as much as 30%.
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RE: Horrible Gas Mileage on my New 2004 4.3ltr. Help! - 3/21/2007 1:26:46 AM
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supramacist
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For less than 6 dollars you could have proof read your post and added credibility to your statement.
Butcha DIDN'T did you.
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RE: Horrible Gas Mileage on my New 2004 4.3ltr. Help! - 3/21/2007 7:22:53 AM
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swartlkk
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Just for a comparison, 3% on one test is not by any stretch of the imagination repeatable. It must be tested numerous times. The FTC did these tests and found that the magnetic thinga-ma-giggers did squat just as stated on the website I posted earlier.
I've known plenty of people that have tried them. More than half ended up bringing their car to me with the CEL illuminated and trouble codes present for various sensors. Their troubles started when they installed this miraculous magnet. The rest of them never realized any change in their fuel mileage and I know that more than a few watched it like a hawk.
But hey, it's your $6. Just think of it this way, if it was only $6 and even if it were to increase your mileage by only 3%, don't you think that the automaker would have installed one from the factory?... 3% across the board increase in fuel mileage does a ton for CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel Economy).
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RE: Horrible Gas Mileage on my New 2004 4.3ltr. Help! - 3/21/2007 9:40:18 AM
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Blasir
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Could be that he has a K&N filter in it that has never been changed. The day I picked my truck up from the guy I bought it off with 104K on it, he said "By the way, it has some K and something air filter in it that NEVER has to be changed" haha. Needless to say it was BLACK and like tar. I whipped that filter out and have been using $5.00 FRAMs ever since. He was probably wondering why he was getting 10 or 11 miles to the gallon.
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RE: Horrible Gas Mileage on my New 2004 4.3ltr. Help! - 3/21/2007 1:30:08 PM
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supramacist
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That's hillarious blasir.
Some people have no business behind the wheel of anything.
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RE: Horrible Gas Mileage on my New 2004 4.3ltr. Help! - 3/21/2007 2:18:45 PM
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Zygoat
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swartlkk i am getting everything just like i said from the show mythbusters, so i am am not saying if its wrong or right just what they found, and i believe you 100% on the cel. i have heard of another device, it operates much like a fule filter i can not remember exactly what it does cehmicaly but it DOES work to the best of my knowlage. i believe the military bough a whole bunch of them to put on ther humvees in iraq. they are like $50 and do need replacem,ent but they last for along time like 50,000 mi or something ill c if i can find it.
ps. superamacasit can u proof read this one for me too?
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RE: Horrible Gas Mileage on my New 2004 4.3ltr. Help! - 3/21/2007 10:10:17 PM
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komodopb
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Update:
Alright, as I was driving on the highway this morning going to the dealer, the rpms at 60mph read 1700.
I definitely do not have a K&N air filter, however the filter in there looks brand new so I wonder if the dealer possibly swapped it out before I bought it.
As far as tires go, I'm not sure cause the car is still at the dealer and I can't remember what they said. Does P275 75r15 sound about right? The car only has 26k so I would imagine they are stock. I think the mfr is General - but again I'm not 100%
When I called the dealer in the afternoon, they said they were going to have to keep the car overnight because they were still diagnosing the problem - so it doesn't look too good right now. But I definitely appreciate all the responses and suggestions so thanks!
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RE: Horrible Gas Mileage on my New 2004 4.3ltr. Help! - 3/22/2007 5:52:17 AM
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drperry
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quote:
ORIGINAL: komodopb
Update:
Alright, as I was driving on the highway this morning going to the dealer, the rpms at 60mph read 1700.
I definitely do not have a K&N air filter, however the filter in there looks brand new so I wonder if the dealer possibly swapped it out before I bought it.
As far as tires go, I'm not sure cause the car is still at the dealer and I can't remember what they said. Does P275 75r15 sound about right? The car only has 26k so I would imagine they are stock. I think the mfr is General - but again I'm not 100%
When I called the dealer in the afternoon, they said they were going to have to keep the car overnight because they were still diagnosing the problem - so it doesn't look too good right now. But I definitely appreciate all the responses and suggestions so thanks!
275 sounds a little on the large size...
At the biggest it should be 235/75R15...
Hopefully the dealership figures it out!
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RE: Horrible Gas Mileage on my New 2004 4.3ltr. Help! - 3/23/2007 12:15:08 AM
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pilgrim
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That magnet deal is pure BS. Even if you accepted that it increased gas mileaeg 3% (and I don't) that's well within the margin of error of any test you could possibly run.
THINK about it! 10% of 20 MPG is 2 MPG. Therefore an improvement of 3% at 20 MPG would equal roughly 2/3 of 1 MPG!!! There's no way anyone can test for that. FORGET IT.
Those magnet things have been sold to unsuspecting, gullible drivers for 50+ years. I've seen them in car mags for decades. At age 56, i've seen a lot of this junk come and go. The only reason people think they improve gas mileage is because they change their driving habits after they're installed...for a while. Then they go back and drive as they always did.
Repeat after me: they DON'T work. They will NEVER work. There is NO WAY they can work.
If you want to do something productive with your $6, buy a big latte and a cookie and get some energy from the sugar and caffeine.
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RE: Horrible Gas Mileage on my New 2004 4.3ltr. Help! - 3/23/2007 2:44:59 AM
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Zygoat
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as an update this IS the device i was thinking of.
http://www.fitchfuelcatalyst.com/
click on the published review they have all the stuff that backs them up.
i particularly like this one http://www.fitchfuelcatalyst.com/docs/rev_comm_CivilInfrastructure.pdf
here is the one for our cars 96-06 it ant cheep $250 but that is probably because it actualy works. http://www.fitchfuelcatalyst.com/cfm/finder.cfm?list=0,2,6,44,2033,2034&drill=2035&CFID=1099156&CFTOKEN=159ad83f0ced5a3d-7D88A5D3-B97F-215E-92E7F52CD63E78FE
from their faq
Q. How long does the Catalyst last?   250,000 operating miles or 5,000 operating hours The FFC is a maintenance-free device.
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RE: Horrible Gas Mileage on my New 2004 4.3ltr. Help! - 3/23/2007 7:44:09 AM
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swartlkk
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I don't trust their numbers. First thing that pops up is in a lab test they only did 2 tests. They didn't even record the operating environment the vehicle was run in. Even our ISO standards here at work mandate that for our tests we record the temperature and humidity and we're just a pump company. Those tests show nothing of the sort and both of those aspects affect the efficiency of an engine.
But hey... whatever. You can find all sorts of things these days that claim to improve your mileage. The simple fact is that if they actually worked, they would be on your vehicle from the factory, period, the end.
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RE: Horrible Gas Mileage on my New 2004 4.3ltr. Help! - 3/23/2007 12:16:46 PM
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komodopb
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So I got my truck back and the dealer said he could not find anything wrong. However, he did tell me that I do have an aftermarket exhaust - which explains why the truck sounds like a '72 Chevelle. Now I know a less restrictive exhaust in theory should improve the gas mileage, but is there a possibility that it's hindering it?
Also the tires are p265/75 r15 and this is stock according to what it reads inside the door jam. Is this unusual for a stock 2004?
Any more ideas?
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RE: Horrible Gas Mileage on my New 2004 4.3ltr. Help! - 3/23/2007 6:32:20 PM
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pilgrim
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I don't buy a word of it. Not one. I don't believe the reviews.
How hard is it to spell BS???????????????????
But go right ahead and waste all the money you want to on this stuff. You could probably do the same thing by pouring some octane booster into the tank.
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